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Charlie Edmondson

Joerg said:
I always bring the good stuff, from home. Hasn't been a problem yet.
Place in separate large clear ziplock bags and spread out openly. Got me
some kudos a couple times. "Look, folks, this here is how it's supposed
to be."



Worked for me, so far. But the first time I had a wee bit of water left
in it and they took it away even though it was under 3oz.



Long term they won't be winning. I grew up in Germany and they had a bad
bout with terrorism in the 70's. Really bad. Pretty frightening, I'd be
looking into the barrel of an automatic weapon every day at the border,
held by a trembling young lad from their border patrol. Did the
terrorists win? Nope. Many of them are still thinking about their
"mighty acts" behind bars. The patrol points are long gone, life went
back to normal. Except that now another set of terrorists is creeping up
and many Europeans seem blissfully unaware at this point. Or maybe they
don't want to see it, I don't know.
last trip I found out that pudding cups were verbotten... :-(

Charlie
 
Here in the U.S. water and other food is OK if it's
been purchased in the "secure" area...

According to the official TSA (Transportation Security Administration)
site, food is also allowed through checkpoints as long as it's wrapped
or in a container (so there's no danger of it spilling when going
throught the x-ray machine). The rules about beverages are more
restrictive.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/editorial_1667.shtm

James
 
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Joerg

Jim said:
You can only bring on board food purchased in the mall area AFTER
you've passed thru security.

Not out here. I fly Southwest, mainly between here (SMF) and LAX to a
client. All the food I carry is home made since I don't like those
floppy cholesterol blister-packs. I even take some back out the airport
at LAX so we can work through lunch and I can fly home at night. And
yes, there is the occasional barbie burger ;-)
 
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Joerg

Charlie said:
last trip I found out that pudding cups were verbotten... :-(

Probably too close to gels and pastes where havoc could be wreaked with.

I try to be easy on the TSA folks and only carry stuff where it's pretty
obvious that it won't pose a risk. A home made burger that looks like
burger and smells like burger seems to be quite convincing regarding its
innocence. Except that it creates a drooling effect.
 
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Charlie Edmondson

Joerg said:
Probably too close to gels and pastes where havoc could be wreaked with.

I try to be easy on the TSA folks and only carry stuff where it's pretty
obvious that it won't pose a risk. A home made burger that looks like
burger and smells like burger seems to be quite convincing regarding its
innocence. Except that it creates a drooling effect.
Yeah, I usually travel with a 'goodie' bag, containing M&Ms, cashews,
some dried fruit (usually apples or apricots), and some ham or other
long lasting meat and some cheese. Most of the flights out of Palm
Springs don't have any service at all...

Charlie
 
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Joerg

Charlie said:
Yeah, I usually travel with a 'goodie' bag, containing M&Ms, cashews,
some dried fruit (usually apples or apricots), and some ham or other
long lasting meat and some cheese. Most of the flights out of Palm
Springs don't have any service at all...

That would cause me to gain weight just by looking into the goodie bag.
Our flights out of MSF are similar, mostly no food except maybe peanuts.
Then again I can book a last minute to a client in Southern Cal and
still pay only about $250.
 
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

Homer said:
[snip]

Policy: Can I bring my own food or drinks on board?

No. Skybus fares are very, very low in part because that's all you're paying
for: your air fare. That means no free peanuts. (Actually, no one seems to
miss them). And we ask that you not bring your own food or drinks on board.
The only exception is for passengers who will need food that we're unable to
provide, for example baby formula or baby food, special food for those with
a medical condition such as diabetes or severe food allergies, or those with
dietary restrictions (Kosher, Muslim, etc).

Tell them you adhere to a strict Halal diet. Throw in a couple of "Allah
Akbar"s and see how far you get.
 
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

David Horne said:
You're quoting a new article almost immediately after the 'plot' in
August.


You were completely misinformed then. Those restrictions were rescinded
months ago- at least half a year ago. Certain liquid restrictions
remain- these are EU wide.

Anyone try freezing a water bottle and claiming 'its not a liquid' at
the security check?
 
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

James said:
At the moment, they are free, though the thought of charging probably
hasn't escaped the attention of the airline.

The seat power (both DC and AC) can be controlled by seat. I have found
on several occasions that even if you have a seat power plug, whether it
works or not depends on whether you paid for a business class or economy
class ticket.

I was thinking of packing an extension cord in my carry on. When my
outlet in the cheap seats (inevitably ) fails to work, I'll just run it
up to the first class section and plug it in there. ;-)
 
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

Homer said:
Seems all three control the temperature. Perhaps one controls the water
flow?

Possibly the maximum allowed flow. If the inlet water is cooler in the
winter, the demand heater might not be able to heat it up to the same
temperature as it could with warmer (summer) inlt water.
 
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Homer J Simpson

No need. Just insist that you must have kosher food. Don't bring a ham and
cheese sandwich if you use that excuse.

Tell them you are a Cathode Follower and must have food prepared by the
Master Inductor. Only one in a million will know what you are saying - and
none of them will be airline employees.


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Homer J Simpson

Why are you such a cheap prick? Do you bring your own food into a
restaurant?

"Airline Food" = oxymoron.


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Jeff Hacker

2007 May said:
Yesterday, I flew American Airline flight #137 on a Boeing 777 from
London Heathrow to LAX on economy seats.
On the overhead compartment door, there is a label "DC power source under
seat". I looked but was unable to find this power source.

It looks like a cigarette lighter pocket from your car.
Can you tell me what is the DC power voltage of this power source & max
current or wattage?

I'm not sure but I think it is 110 volts
What is the sharp of this plug should be?

AA uses the "Empower" system - you need a specific type of plug, which can
be purchased online (www.port.com, for one source)
Can I use it to charge laptop and cell phone and use for portable DVD
players?

Not sure
Is this power source for all domestic and international airlines?

not all. Some of the newer planes have regular 110 volt (North American
style) plugs.
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Homer said:
[snip]

Policy: Can I bring my own food or drinks on board?

No. Skybus fares are very, very low in part because that's all you're paying
for: your air fare. That means no free peanuts. (Actually, no one seems to
miss them). And we ask that you not bring your own food or drinks on board.
The only exception is for passengers who will need food that we're unable to
provide, for example baby formula or baby food, special food for those with
a medical condition such as diabetes or severe food allergies, or those with
dietary restrictions (Kosher, Muslim, etc).

Tell them you adhere to a strict Halal diet. Throw in a couple of "Allah
Akbar"s and see how far you get.

Halal and Kosher are close enough the same anyhow. Neither can eat
pork, either can chow down on mashed locusts, etc.
 
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NotABushSupporter

R said:
Obviously one for the person whose plug is being borrowed.

My point was there is NOT an unlimited amount of power available per
socket.
 
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NotABushSupporter

Jeff said:
It looks like a cigarette lighter pocket from your car.



I'm not sure but I think it is 110 volts

I think you are confusing airline power with home AC power.
 
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Mxsmanic

Homer said:
You miss the point. Like a movie theatre, you may NOT bring any of your own
food on board, you must buy it from the hostess/server or do without.

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Policy: Can I bring my own food or drinks on board?

No. Skybus fares are very, very low in part because that's all you're paying
for: your air fare. That means no free peanuts. (Actually, no one seems to
miss them). And we ask that you not bring your own food or drinks on board.
The only exception is for passengers who will need food that we're unable to
provide, for example baby formula or baby food, special food for those with
a medical condition such as diabetes or severe food allergies, or those with
dietary restrictions (Kosher, Muslim, etc).

On the other hand, Skybus flights are very, very comfortable partly because
you can buy delicious snacks and beverages you actually want during your
flight. Or not. It's your choice.

To keep everything tidy and organized, we do ask that you finish any snacks
and drinks you purchase on your own before boarding, as you are not
permitted to bring them on our aircraft.

Just tell the airline that the food you're bringing on board is required by
your religious beliefs. If they allow this for Jews and Muslims, they must
allow it for everyone or risk lawsuits.
 
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Mxsmanic

NotABushSupporter said:
I think you are confusing airline power with home AC power.

Standard cabin power on most airliners is 110 VAC. The DC power provided by
ISPSS is a new development and comes in addition to the standard power, which
is still used for things like the galley.
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Mxsmanic said:
Just tell the airline that the food you're bringing on board is required by
your religious beliefs. If they allow this for Jews and Muslims, they must
allow it for everyone or risk lawsuits.


Do you really think you can fool them by claiming to belong to the
"Church of Bubba", just so you can bring a huge bucket of fried chicken
and a gallon of mashed potatos aboard? :)


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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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