why are cheap LCD televisions so dismal?

[Phil Allison]

"Bob Parker"

Resoldering joints isn't quite the same as replacing lots of parts, but I
know what you mean.
I've been tempted to get some kind of LCD TV to replace it, but the
discussions here are making me wonder if that's such a good idea.

** If you can find a Big W store with any of those AWA brand, 17 inch
Monitor/TVs on sale for $ 299 - grab one.

BTW

The one I saw was not faulty, in any way.

The customer used it to demo her new " magic microphone " to me.

If you dunno what that is - try Google.

What will they think of next ..................



........ Phil

 

[Bob Parker]

Phil Allison wrote:


** If you can find a Big W store with any of those AWA brand, 17 inch
Monitor/TVs on sale for $ 299 - grab one.

BTW

The one I saw was not faulty, in any way.

Thanks for the info. I've been browsing various retailer sites to
see who might be flogging them (Big W's online presence doesn't seem to
extend to having catalog info).
I might go to a Big W for a first-hand look.

The customer used it to demo her new " magic microphone " to me.

If you dunno what that is - try Google.

Struth - not for me!

What will they think of next ..................

I dread to think about that....



Bob

 

[Franc Zabkar]

All three of which can be screwed up by the el-cheapo's.

You usually get what you pay for, it's a universal rule for every
electronic product on the market.

Dave.

That tired old mantra is a never ending source of annoyance for me.
This kind of FUD is usually recited by those who have never done more
than research the sales brochure and price tag. The number of times
I've been let down by an upmarket product is just too many to
remember. In the present case I probably would have chosen a cheaper
panel if its warranty matched that of the LG, or if I could have had a
peek inside. I have no experience in LCD TVs, but if they are anything
like LCD monitors, then most of the work is probably done by a single
ASIC with only a few support components. Assuming the ASIC is
reliable, then I'd only have to be prepared to repair the PSU (usually
straightforward), the inverter, or the tuner (which would probably
become available in the aftermarket). I presume that generic
replacement CCFLs will soon be available from WES and similar sources.

- Franc Zabkar

 

[Franc Zabkar]

You will be surprised how bad service can be with big brands and how good it
can be with cheap ones. I am doing warranty repairs for a bunch of smaller
brands and I do not want to touch big ones! Way too much hassle and mess.
Of course, there are exclusions from the rules. (I am not going to mention
names).

BTW, many cheaper LCDs use LG panels, so you may as well get a cheaper one
and effectively get same TV as LG.

These days it seems almost everything is badge engineered. You never
really know what's inside until it breaks down. That's why I'm cynical
when it comes to brand names.

Right now I'm repairing a 10 year old TC-29R20 Panasonic TV (tuner
fault) which has a tired US-made RCA CRT. One of the last Philips TVs
I repaired had a low emission Zenith CRT, also US-made. The best CRTs
in my experience were made by Philips and Mitsubishi, but even
Mitsubishi stopped making their own many years ago.

- Franc Zabkar

 

[lynx]

That tired old mantra is a never ending source of annoyance for me.
This kind of FUD is usually recited by those who have never done more
than research the sales brochure and price tag. The number of times
I've been let down by an upmarket product is just too many to
remember. In the present case I probably would have chosen a cheaper
panel if its warranty matched that of the LG, or if I could have had a
peek inside. I have no experience in LCD TVs, but if they are anything
like LCD monitors, then most of the work is probably done by a single
ASIC with only a few support components. Assuming the ASIC is
reliable, then I'd only have to be prepared to repair the PSU (usually
straightforward), the inverter, or the tuner (which would probably
become available in the aftermarket). I presume that generic
replacement CCFLs will soon be available from WES and similar sources.

- Franc Zabkar

Do yourself a favor.. go look at a Sony Bravia, then a Soniq, or even
the much hyped LG, and then try and say there's no difference.

--

rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/
'When in doubt mumble. When in trouble delegate'

 

[lynx]

As someone who has done a fair bit of research I would say that with one
exception (Sony Bravia) all LCD TVs are crap. I would buy a Bravia tomorrow
but I need 3 RGB SCART connections for my equipment (and changing everything
at once is a bit expensive).

Plasma rules! a friend is getting one of these:
http://panasonic.com.au/products/details.cfm?objectID=3416 I've got the
50" model.
LCD's are making serious inroads into the market tho. I think it's
because they look good in the showrooms, and because they're available
in smaller sizes. btw.. you can pick up those SCART to RGB adaptors
quite cheap on eBay.


--

rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/
'Press any key...no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE!'

 

[Osama Ben Cousins]

Plasma rules! a friend is getting one of these:
http://panasonic.com.au/products/details.cfm?objectID=3416 I've got the
50" model.
LCD's are making serious inroads into the market tho. I think it's
because they look good in the showrooms, and because they're available
in smaller sizes. btw.. you can pick up those SCART to RGB adaptors
quite cheap on eBay.

Cheaply. They are quite cheap. You can buy them quite cheaply.

A jihad on adverb deniers.

 

[mark krawczuk]

hi, all lcd tv`s are crap , you go to the side a bit and it looks crap ,
with a plasma , does it look crap when you go to the side a bit hmmmmm,
errr , let me think errr,,, NO !!

mark k

 

[Sylvia Else]

hi, all lcd tv`s are crap , you go to the side a bit and it looks crap ,
with a plasma , does it look crap when you go to the side a bit hmmmmm,
errr , let me think errr,,, NO !!

This has been a problem in the past, but I was looking at one the other
day (just passing time - I'm not yet in the market to buy), with this
particular issue in mind, and it was providing a decent picture at any
angle that anyone in their right mind would want to watch it from.

Sylvia.

 

[Nicholas Sherlock]

hi, all lcd tv`s are crap , you go to the side a bit and it looks crap ,
with a plasma , does it look crap when you go to the side a bit hmmmmm,
errr , let me think errr,,, NO !!

Only the very cheapest screens these days have this problem. Most of the
modern ones have very large viewing angles.

Cheers,
Nicholas Sherlock

 

[David L. Jones]

hi, the latest sony lcd doesnt, refresh rate is very poor , color is also
crap.

You must be totally mistaken.
It's hard to beat my my Sony S Series in both aspects, and the X
series is even better again, which leaves?
Sony's have 100Hz "motion flow" technology which improves the picture
with fast moving images, they are one of the best in this aspect.

By the colour being "crap", are you sure the "vivid" mode wasn't on? I
think mine was on by default out of the box.

Dave.

 

[Anthony Horan]

hi, the latest sony lcd doesnt, refresh rate is very poor

Get thee to an eye/brain doctor. Right now.

 

[Elmo]

hi, no, the LATEST sony lcd is crap , the 800 dollar special from dick
smith electronics is better than the sony..

Why do you say that Mark?


Elmo

 

[Ian Galbraith]

Why do you say that Mark?

Cause he's a moron, the latest Sony LCDs look fantastic.

 

[Ian Galbraith]

hi, cause you only look at ONE lcd tv and think its great.
try looking at others, for instance on the sont the refresh rate is very
poor, also , say theres a person wearing a shirt , u naturally have light
and dark areas, because of shadowing , with the sony , most of the time its
just one color, with no shadowing.

the very latest sony is crap , refresh rate is poor , , , also for
instance , say a person is wearing a shirt , u naturally have light and dar

I have looked at lots of LCDs. If you compare the refresh rate to plasma
of course it looks poor. LCD has other advantages though, you don't like
the LCD picture fine, I personally prefer it to plasma.

 

[fish..]

hi, cause you only look at ONE lcd tv and think its great.
try looking at others, for instance on the sont the refresh rate is very
poor, also , say theres a person wearing a shirt , u naturally have light
and dark areas, because of shadowing , with the sony , most of the time its
just one color, with no shadowing.

the very latest sony is crap , refresh rate is poor , , , also for
instance , say a person is wearing a shirt , u naturally have light and dar

That was a fucking pre-schooler attempt at literacy. **** off and post
your worthless shit in an alt newgsroup.

 

[David L. Jones]

hi, cause you only look at ONE lcd tv and think its great.
try looking at others, for instance on the sont the refresh rate is very
poor, also , say theres a person wearing a shirt , u naturally have light
and dark areas, because of shadowing , with the sony , most of the time its
just one color, with no shadowing.

the very latest sony is crap , refresh rate is poor , , , also for
instance , say a person is wearing a shirt , u naturally have light and dar"Ian Galbraith" <[email protected]> wrote in message

You seriously need your eyes checked.

Dave.

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

I have looked at lots of LCDs. If you compare the refresh rate to plasma
of course it looks poor. LCD has other advantages though, you don't like
the LCD picture fine, I personally prefer it to plasma.

I've found it impossible to get any spec regarding the refresh rate on any
domestic plasma display.
So what is the typical refresh rate on plasma screens, say in the 50" size
and where can this info be read?

Cheers,
Alan

 

[Suzy]

That was a fucking pre-schooler attempt at literacy. **** off and post
your worthless shit in an alt newgsroup.

Do you suppose your foul-mouthed posting shows how literate and clever you
are?

 

[fish..]

Do you suppose your foul-mouthed posting shows how literate and clever you
are?

Oooh how very high horsed of you 'suzy' apart from the fucking imbecilic
reference to literacy which you just plucked out of your arse in an
attempt to big note yourself.

Any other retard's defence you'd like to leap to next?

Perhaps you can add something more than the overused bleatings of a
wowser.