V20p with wierd installer code

[E DAWSON]

Has anyone ever found an installer code that went something like this: 0 , 8
, 0 , 10 .
The ten is not a mistake. This code was in a board that we had once
tookover-had not been locked out by the original company. We do lock them
out so that no one will tinker with any of our programming while we are
monitoring a system. It is a liability issue with us.
The renter moved out and a new guy moved in. He went with the old company.
He moved out and the newest renter called us. Thinking this would be an easy
'retake-over', the board was found to be locked out. Did not have our old
code in it. So another board was put in and this one was "examined".
First, there was no way for the original company to have known our installer
code for 'this' system. After tinkering with it without knowing the code and
not using software, we were able to get into it to read the "supposed new
code" of the original company. That is how we got the 0,8,0,10. We hit #20
several times to make sure.

The 10 can only be put there by using *20 0 8 0 #10. So the question is
this, Why would the original company put this in and how can they get back
into programming after having done something like this? You cannot key in
0,8,0,#10 8,0,0 to get into programming. Tried it, didn't work. So.....for
the clever and wise and learned ones in this audience, I await your response
to this riddle. This should get some mileage out of these posts.

Thanks in advance.

 

[G. Morgan]

I've never seen that. Maybe it's to keep local programming locked even
from the service tech's, downloadable programming only? Perhaps they
don't trust their contractors/employees to hand program.

If that is a *feature*, it's new to me.

 

[Jim Rojas]

Has anyone ever found an installer code that went something like this: 0 , 8
, 0 , 10 .
The ten is not a mistake. This code was in a board that we had once
tookover-had not been locked out by the original company. We do lock them
out so that no one will tinker with any of our programming while we are
monitoring a system. It is a liability issue with us.
The renter moved out and a new guy moved in. He went with the old company.
He moved out and the newest renter called us. Thinking this would be an easy
'retake-over', the board was found to be locked out. Did not have our old
code in it. So another board was put in and this one was "examined".
First, there was no way for the original company to have known our installer
code for 'this' system. After tinkering with it without knowing the code and
not using software, we were able to get into it to read the "supposed new
code" of the original company. That is how we got the 0,8,0,10. We hit #20
several times to make sure.

The 10 can only be put there by using *20 0 8 0 #10. So the question is
this, Why would the original company put this in and how can they get back
into programming after having done something like this? You cannot key in
0,8,0,#10 8,0,0 to get into programming. Tried it, didn't work. So.....for
the clever and wise and learned ones in this audience, I await your response
to this riddle. This should get some mileage out of these posts.

Thanks in advance.

My guess:

1. A newbie installer with real fat fingers.
2. Same newbie using Compass for the first time.
3. Line noise corrupted installer code change.
4. There is no 4.
5. Modem disconnected in the middle of a download.
6. Disgruntled ADT authorized dealer.
7. Brinks Home Security wants the homeowner to pay $500 to use the
system as a local, or they will destroy their credit score.
8. Homeowner found the manual on the internet and tried changing
installer code on his own.
9. The panel is possessed. The panel recognized the end of the world is
coming on Dec 21, 2012, and is taking appropriate countermeasures.
10. All of the above...

Jim Rojas
Technical Manuals Online!
http://www.tech-man.com
8002 Cornwall Lane
Tampa, FL 33615-4604
813-884-6335
813-440-6653 Fax
AOL: rojas813
MSN: [email protected]
Yahoo: jimrojas
ICQ: 20116219
GoogleTalk: [email protected]

 

[E DAWSON]

My guess:

1. A newbie installer with real fat fingers.
2. Same newbie using Compass for the first time.
3. Line noise corrupted installer code change.
4. There is no 4.
5. Modem disconnected in the middle of a download.
6. Disgruntled ADT authorized dealer.
7. Brinks Home Security wants the homeowner to pay $500 to use the system
as a local, or they will destroy their credit score.
8. Homeowner found the manual on the internet and tried changing installer
code on his own.
9. The panel is possessed. The panel recognized the end of the world is
coming on Dec 21, 2012, and is taking appropriate countermeasures.
10. All of the above...

Jim Rojas
Technical Manuals Online!
http://www.tech-man.com
8002 Cornwall Lane
Tampa, FL 33615-4604
813-884-6335
813-440-6653 Fax
AOL: rojas813
MSN: [email protected]
Yahoo: jimrojas
ICQ: 20116219
GoogleTalk: [email protected]

Hi Jim,

The board is from a small regional telephone company. It is a normal V20p. I
am sure you are aware of how it all works. In location 88, option 3 is made
to lockout local programming. Does this option create the '10' in last digit
of the installer code by default? Just thought that you would be the person
to know.

Did you figure out how the code was broken without downloading software and
not knowing the code? Even knowing the code beforehand of 0,8,0,10 would not
have made it possible to get in anyway with "installer code + 8 0 0 with a
keypad. No code breaking/resetting device of another company was used to get
in either. That's the riddle.

By the way, I am the one that sent you some Gamewell Flex programming last
year. Would you want the Flex 410 also? Let me know, it's in a homemade
spreadsheet format after finding a way into it.

 

[G. Morgan]

I thought that the power down power up and holding "*" & "#" got you in
without installer code on Vista stuff.

Not if it's locked out in Compass.