What happened to the "Just Say NO" campaign?
It was too Republican.
What happened to the "Just Say NO" campaign?
Bill said:It would probably have to be pretty invasive to be particularly
effective, but self-consistency is always to be recommended, even if
it doesn't actually minimise damage.
Getting excited about the damage drug addicts do to themselves while
ignoring the way food addicts wreck their health is distinctly silly.
The only thing that really does seem to help with obesity is surgical
adjustments of the stomach
and the top of the digestive system and
that is seriously invasive. If we get a better grip on the way
appetite control works in people who don't get fat - and fails to work
in people who do - we may come up with less invasive treatments that
do work, but it may take a while.
Bill said:
My wife gave up cigarettes many years ago, but she remains addicted to
coffee. Tobacco clearly does more harm than coffee, so people get
less upset about the dealers who make money from selling coffee, but
they are equally guilty of "professional predation' in the sense of
exploiting a human weakness for their own profit.
Most of them have - however - noticed that modern advertising
techniques can increase demand.
Nobody seems to have seriously tried
to use the same techniques to reduce demand. The "Just Say No"
campaing may have been conceived as a step in that direction but the
campaign money doesn't seem to have been spent on buying even
minimally competent advertising talent.
Bill said:On Aug 25, 7:00 am, John Larkin
In fact you seem to think that denialist propaganda miniminising the
dangers of persisting anhtropogenic global warming is some kind of
useful public service, rather than a cynical exercise by the fossil-
carbon extraction industry designed to let them keep on digging up and
selling fossil-carbon until the damage it causes is blatant enough to
be undeniable.
Bill said:And your example countries are?
The only countries that I've adduced - France versus the Netherlands,
has the less permisive Frence regime stuck with a slightly worse drug
problem than the more permissive Netherlands.
The US has a bigger drug problem than either, and its the world leader
in the - misconceived - "war on drugs".
Les Cargill said:Economists know that demand largely exists independent of supply...
Have you tried any pfets?
I haven't played much with pfets as really fast switches. Right, a
complement to the 2N7002, push-pull against a 7002, with the same
12-cent gate drivers, would be interesting, and might solve your
problem. Just ignore the shoot-through maybe.
I'll put that on my slow-day experiment list. All I need now is a slow
day.
Why doesn't somebody make p-channel gaasfets? The world wonders.
John
But spending loads of money on measures that don't do much to maximise
health while ignoring cheaper - more effective - measures is the way
the US has got itself a health care system that costs half as much
again per head as the French and German systems while failing to
deliver any better health care to the fully insured and rather poorer
health care to the less well-off.
It can make an effort, but it doesn't seem to have made it difficult
to get hold of.
In principle it could, but Prohibition demonstrated that banning stuff
that people want doesn't stop them getting it. The War on Drugs has
repeated the lesson, but US politicians seem to be very slow on the up-
take.
Bill said:In other words, you put your faith in anecdotal evidence, and want to
determine national policy on the basis of a few isolated local
situations with which you happen to be familiar.
Infant mortality usually is factored in in these kind of numbers. IIRC
they start counting if a child is older than 4 or 5.
Not to mention that it is currently providing the bullets and
explosives that are being used to blow up Americans and others
in Afghanistan. You're bleeding money out the front door paying
to send soldiers to the war, and out the back door paying the
Taliban to fight against you. No wonder the country's bankrupt...
Moral or ethical bankruptcy normally proceeds monetary (fiscal) ^^^^^^^^ pre?
bankruptcy.
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Don't worry about Jim Thompson, the hurricane should be cleaning out hisBill said:Jim-out-of-touch-with-reality-Thompson hasn't noticed that Clifford
Heath is Australian.
He was pointing out that one of the consequences of the "US war on
drugs" is that some of the money Americans spend on using opiates to
adjust their mood ends up paying the people who grow the opiates in
Afghanistan, who in turn have to pay a lot of it over to the Taliban
for "protection".
If the US had a more rational system of government, they might have
worked out that they could cut off this source of support to the
Taliban by legalising opiates, growing them in the US and selling them
directly to the US addicts through the medical system. Not only would
they ensure that American addicts got better quality opiates, but
they'd also improve the US balance of trade, which needs all the help
that it can get.
That the US hasn't worked this out for itself does seem to be evidence
of some kind of intellectual bankruptcy.
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Bill said:That's exactly what it is.
Nope.
How many?
Well, the war on drugs hasn't made the problem go away. Harm
minimisation doesn't make it go away either, but pure drugs available
with clean needles from a medically run source do eliminate some of
the more unfortunate side-effedts of drug addiction.
I'd say that "just say no" was more of a head-in-the-sand strategy
than "harm minimisation" but tastes differ.
No, you're most likely correct, you didn't use any illegal drugs inBill said:It may make you wonder, because you are both stupid and malicious. For
the record, I didn't use any.
Moral or ethical bankruptcy normally proceeds monetary (fiscal)
bankruptcy.