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Standard PC printers on boats?

D

Doug Dotson

I used my DeskJet 722C with no problems for a year.

Doug
s/v Callista
 
G

Geoffrey W. Schultz

Can one use off the shelf PC printers on any kind of
boat?

Yes. I have a Canon BJC-85 which is incredibly compact and doubles as a
scanner with an optional print head scanner. Not the cheapest, but compact
and very functional.

-- Geoff
 
S

Steve

I picked up a used Canon BJC-250 at a garage sale for $20 / ink tank and it
worked great onboard. Very compact and fits into a locker with ease.

I also picked up a new Epson Stylus CX4600 for $97 after rebate. This unit
has a scanner that and digital camera card memory slot so I can scan/print
or print pictures without the computer. I'm using this at home right now but
will take it along while cruising the insided passage next summer.

The Epson does take up a bit more space on the book shelf but scanner will
be handy when doing boat paperwork or coping chart section from other
boaters while exploring the back waters.

Since I'm using digital charts as part of my navigation system, I can always
print out color chartlets from these programs. This will be handy in the
cockpit.

I'm not worried about corrosion since these printers are so cheap that if
boat dampness is a problem, no great loss and they should survive for a
couple years.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions
 
I picked up a used Canon BJC-250 at a garage sale for $20 / ink tank and it
worked great onboard. Very compact and fits into a locker with ease.

I also picked up a new Epson Stylus CX4600 for $97 after rebate. This unit
has a scanner that and digital camera card memory slot so I can scan/print
or print pictures without the computer. I'm using this at home right now but
will take it along while cruising the insided passage next summer.

The Epson does take up a bit more space on the book shelf but scanner will
be handy when doing boat paperwork or coping chart section from other
boaters while exploring the back waters.

Since I'm using digital charts as part of my navigation system, I can always
print out color chartlets from these programs. This will be handy in the
cockpit.

I'm not worried about corrosion since these printers are so cheap that if
boat dampness is a problem, no great loss and they should survive for a
couple years.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

OK

Do you think this model from Samsung will be OK?

http://tinyurl.com/7xudg

Its a B&W laser unit only.... no color.

Do I really NEED color?
 
D

Doug Dotson

Looks a little big, but if you have the space... I ran mine off of an
inverter.
From what I have heard, some printers don;t do well using a modified
sinewave inverter which is what I used.

Doug
s/v Callista
 
Looks a little big, but if you have the space... I ran mine off of an
inverter.
From what I have heard, some printers don;t do well using a modified
sinewave inverter which is what I used.

OK

But what you think abt the lack of color?

Will black and white suffice you think?
 
J

Jack Erbes

Doug said:
Looks a little big, but if you have the space... I ran mine off of an
inverter.
From what I have heard, some printers don;t do well using a modified
sinewave inverter which is what I used.

I think the printers that don't do well have AC power cords and use the
AC power for some of the motors. Most of the newer ones that use an AC
to DC adapter run entirely off of the DC are not affected.

Jack
 
K

Keith

You can get by with BW, but why? The color printers are so cheap. I use the
Cannon BJ250 which is compact, cheap, and does color and BW. I don't know
what you're going to be printing, but sometimes I print out little chartlets
from Nobeltec VNS. Sure is nice to have them in color. Why not go ahead and
spring for color, then you'll never be sorry.

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D

Doug Dotson

I didn't even notice that it was BW only. I'd go for
color myself but that's a personal preference. The only
time I even printed out much in color was when printing
charts and that was almost never. Most of my printing
was WXFAX and text. I suspect a BW laser printer is
a good choice because a toner catrridge will print far
more copies than a inkjet with a black cartridge. More
cost effective as well. I used my 722C because it is what
I already had.

Doug
s/v Callista
 
You can get by with BW, but why? The color printers are so cheap. I use the
Cannon BJ250 which is compact, cheap, and does color and BW. I don't know
what you're going to be printing, but sometimes I print out little chartlets
from Nobeltec VNS. Sure is nice to have them in color. Why not go ahead and
spring for color, then you'll never be sorry.

Because the model Im thinking abt getting is a laser
printer and the consumable last a LOT longer than an
ink jet does
 
I think the printers that don't do well have AC power cords and use the
AC power for some of the motors. Most of the newer ones that use an AC
to DC adapter run entirely off of the DC are not affected.

Ahh.... good point!

Thanks
 
K

Karl Denninger

Yep...... a LOT more printouts

Correct.

If you print with ANY frequency at all, the laser will be MUCH cheaper to
operate. That's the major screw job with the inkjets - the consumable costs
are radically out of control to the point that they are 10x the cost of the
paper - or more..

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D

Doug Dotson

Could be an issue if one is printing alot. The speed of the laser printer
over the inkjet will mitigate this somewhat.

Doug
s/v Callista
 
I

Ian Malcolm

Meindert said:
And a LOT more current consumption. A laser printer can draw quite some
current which is needed for heating the fuser roll.

I qoute from the manual from my laser printer (Laserjet 2200):
Average consumption during printing: 400 Watt.
Minimum supply current for 110V models: 5A (a peak value during the short
period the fuser is heated).

Meindert
Dont forget that Laser printers use a very high voltage to transfer the
toner to the drum and then to the paper. Also the drum is fairly
sensitive to surface contamination. I would be surprised if you got
more than a fraction of the normal operating life from the mechanism and
also from the consumables with a high humidity level and microscopic
salt crystals in the air.

If you were going to use a laser, I'd recomend only using it in harbour
in fine weather, preferably with an offshore breeze, and also to stick
to brands where the drum is in the toner cartridge with the corona wires
so the minimum number of exposed high voltage parts need cleaning when
you replace the cartridge. (You are going to spend a lot of time
cleaning the transfer wire and its insulators though. Better learn how
to replace it and stock a coil of the stuff (very fine tugstan wire
IIRC) as well, they are rather delicate.) You'd need to keep it well
wrapped with a big fresh bag of silica gel in there the rest of the time.

Any inkjet which has a user replacable head is going to be far more
reliable on a boat. My preference has always been for the older models
of HP printers, I am not fond of the newer ones. Black inkjet
cartridges are easy to refill and if you stick to brands that have an
integral head, if you dont get a good enough result it doesn't break the
bank to put a new cartridge in. You need to know where waste ink from
head cleaning cycles goes, and how to clean out the waste tank as I have
seen many printers ruined by ink spillage during office moves. By the
time I got them to repair it was mostly too late. Unless you have
cleaned out the waste ink tank, never store an inkjet printer on its
side or on end and never leave them upsidedown. While you are in there
its worth wiping off the head capping rubber and the rubber head wiping
blade(s) for best print quality and maximum head life. Its also worth
smearing a trace of a good contact cleaner/lubricant on the contacts of
a new head or cartridge to control corrosion.

For anyone who hasn't guessed, part of my job used to be repairing
printers. I dont do many now they are so cheap you can treat them as
throwaway items.

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