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Paul E. Schoen
I have a simple power supply in a special voltage sensing relay that
detects two valid voltage ranges, 90-130 VAC and 200-270 VAC. I have tested
it at up to 280 VAC, 60 Hz, and everything is fine. It is in a well vented
plastic octal relay enclosure. We have had two of these fail in the field
(possibly in the same unit), where the 15 ohm 2W limiting resistor (R1) has
gotten very hot, and the zener (Z1) has shorted. The schematic is about as
follows:
R2
+-------------/\/\/---------------------> To A/D circuit
| 100K 1W
| C1 C2 D2
ACHI-+-)|---)|-----+--->|---+----+---78L05---> 5 VDC to PIC
2uF 2uF | 1N4004 | | |
Film | | | |
D1--- Z1/-/ -C1 |
1N4004 ^ 12V ^ -100uF|
| | | |
R1 | | | |
ACLO---/\/\/-------+--------+----+-----+----- GND
15R 2W
The circuit draws about 110 mA at 250 VAC 60 Hz, for about 200 mW on R1.
The zener diode (1N4744) should see only about half that, for about 600 mW.
This device is in a circuit breaker test set that may be powered from
nominal 120 VAC or 208/240 VAC supplies. It is unlikely that it would be
powered from anything other than normal AC sine wave power, although it
could possibly be from a generator. The only way I can see high current
flowing through R1 would be from high frequency components on the AC line.
I don't want to use resistors in place of C1 and C2 because they would drop
25W and get quite hot in the small package, and there is no room for a
transformer. The test set would not work properly on a modified sinewave
inverter or PWM supply, and I doubt that the customer would be using
anything like that.
There are only about a dozen of these test sets in the field. A previous
unit had an 18.2 ohm 1/4 W resistor for R1, which was marginal, so it was
replaced with the 15 ohm 2 W. Any ideas about how this circuit might fail
as described?
Thanks,
Paul
www.pstech-inc.com
detects two valid voltage ranges, 90-130 VAC and 200-270 VAC. I have tested
it at up to 280 VAC, 60 Hz, and everything is fine. It is in a well vented
plastic octal relay enclosure. We have had two of these fail in the field
(possibly in the same unit), where the 15 ohm 2W limiting resistor (R1) has
gotten very hot, and the zener (Z1) has shorted. The schematic is about as
follows:
R2
+-------------/\/\/---------------------> To A/D circuit
| 100K 1W
| C1 C2 D2
ACHI-+-)|---)|-----+--->|---+----+---78L05---> 5 VDC to PIC
2uF 2uF | 1N4004 | | |
Film | | | |
D1--- Z1/-/ -C1 |
1N4004 ^ 12V ^ -100uF|
| | | |
R1 | | | |
ACLO---/\/\/-------+--------+----+-----+----- GND
15R 2W
The circuit draws about 110 mA at 250 VAC 60 Hz, for about 200 mW on R1.
The zener diode (1N4744) should see only about half that, for about 600 mW.
This device is in a circuit breaker test set that may be powered from
nominal 120 VAC or 208/240 VAC supplies. It is unlikely that it would be
powered from anything other than normal AC sine wave power, although it
could possibly be from a generator. The only way I can see high current
flowing through R1 would be from high frequency components on the AC line.
I don't want to use resistors in place of C1 and C2 because they would drop
25W and get quite hot in the small package, and there is no room for a
transformer. The test set would not work properly on a modified sinewave
inverter or PWM supply, and I doubt that the customer would be using
anything like that.
There are only about a dozen of these test sets in the field. A previous
unit had an 18.2 ohm 1/4 W resistor for R1, which was marginal, so it was
replaced with the 15 ohm 2 W. Any ideas about how this circuit might fail
as described?
Thanks,
Paul
www.pstech-inc.com