Silly Electric motor improvement

[Robert Baer]

There is no need for the magnetic circuit as the magnetic field does not
exist, it is a ficticious field that is the consequence of special
relativity and electrons moving relative to fixed charges in the conductors
and in other conductors.

The concept of the magnetic field is false. Chuck it in the bin.

There are different ferrites and by using a smaller amount of high
permeabilty material then you have a lighter motor. You can use Barium
Titanate as it is a high permittivity material and that also improves the
force over a vaccuum. There is a numerical conversion between the
permaabilty and permittivity it is just related by a constant multiplier. I
think it is c.

Chris.

No, it is C++ or better, C#.

 

[default]

There is no need for the magnetic circuit as the magnetic field does not
exist, it is a ficticious field that is the consequence of special
relativity and electrons moving relative to fixed charges in the conductors
and in other conductors.

Troll bait.

The concept of the magnetic field is false. Chuck it in the bin.

OK there is no magnetic field. It follows that there is no need for
high permeability materials. Why use any ferrite? There is no field.

There are different ferrites and by using a smaller amount of high
permeabilty material then you have a lighter motor. You can use Barium
Titanate as it is a high permittivity material and that also improves the
force over a vaccuum. There is a numerical conversion between the
permaabilty and permittivity it is just related by a constant multiplier. I
think it is c.

Chris.

There will always be some "designer iron" (magnetic material) that
will do a better job than what is currently used. The reason for
using iron: it is inexpensive and does the job well.

Super conductors with rotors running in vacuum with magnetic
non-contact bearings might be the pinnacle of efficiency, but until
the minor kinks are worked out we have iron, copper and ball bearings.

 

[Chris]

["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.]

There is no need for the magnetic circuit as the magnetic field does not
exist, it is a ficticious field that is the consequence of special
relativity and electrons moving relative to fixed charges in the
conductors
and in other conductors.

QM says otherwise

The concept of the magnetic field is false. Chuck it in the bin.

what do you intend to replace it with,

hopefully whatever you replace it with can explain the operation of a
solenoid, if not it has little chance of being useful in motor design.

Bye.
Jasen

 

[Chris]

["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.]

There is no need for the magnetic circuit as the magnetic field does not
exist, it is a ficticious field that is the consequence of special
relativity and electrons moving relative to fixed charges in the
conductors
and in other conductors.

QM says otherwise

Quantum mechanics is entirely electrostic, magnetism is not mentioned.

what do you intend to replace it with,

hopefully whatever you replace it with can explain the operation of a
solenoid, if not it has little chance of being useful in motor design.

Solenoids are not involved in electric motors.

The mechanism of solenoids is a quantum mechanical effect involving photons.

Try Fineman (pity he died).

Use it in mutual and self inductance.

I wonder where Maxwell went? May he rest in peace.

Chris.

 

[Chris]

["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.]

There is no need for the magnetic circuit as the magnetic field does not
exist, it is a ficticious field that is the consequence of special
relativity and electrons moving relative to fixed charges in the
conductors
and in other conductors.

QM says otherwise

Quantum Mechanics does not mention magnetism only electrotatic forces are
involved.

what do you intend to replace it with,

hopefully whatever you replace it with can explain the operation of a
solenoid, if not it has little chance of being useful in motor design.

Solenoids are not involved in electric motor design.

Mutual and Self Inductance are quantum mechanical effects invoving photons
inside the solenoid. Think of Fyneman.

The acceletarion of charges generates photons according to hf where the
frequency of the sinusoid exciter if f and h plancs constant. The number of
photons is the energy of the sinusoid devided by hf.

These photons are emitted and absorbed during the cycle making inductance.

When a solenoid is subjected to a step functon then the photons have a
distribution of frequency similar to a radiating black body (see planck who
worked out the messy equation) and are re-absorbed at the same time causing
the effect of inductance.

 

[Chris]

These motors were about to be made by Maia Beloscar's company before she was
brutally and forcibly leucotomised by psychiatrists on prime time TV for no
reason that I can fathom out at all.

 

[Mark Fergerson]

There is no need for the magnetic circuit as the magnetic field does not
exist, it is a ficticious field that is the consequence of special
relativity and electrons moving relative to fixed charges in the conductors
and in other conductors.

The concept of the magnetic field is false. Chuck it in the bin.

There are different ferrites and by using a smaller amount of high
permeabilty material then you have a lighter motor. You can use Barium
Titanate as it is a high permittivity material and that also improves the
force over a vaccuum. There is a numerical conversion between the
permaabilty and permittivity it is just related by a constant multiplier. I
think it is c.

Irrelevant argument. Whether or not you "believe" in magnetic fields
your ferrite will feel the reaction forces from applying forces to the
rotor; it simply can't be as strong as iron.


Mark L. Fergerson

 

[Chris]

Irrelevant argument. Whether or not you "believe" in magnetic fields

your ferrite will feel the reaction forces from applying forces to the
rotor; it simply can't be as strong as iron.

The forces involved are only on the conductors the high permeability
material only increases the force between conductors. The hi u materal does
not have any mechanical force on it.

Chris.

 

[John Fields]

The forces involved are only on the conductors the high permeability
material only increases the force between conductors. The hi u materal does
not have any mechanical force on it.

 

[Jasen Betts]

["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.]

The forces involved are only on the conductors the high permeability
material only increases the force between conductors. The hi u materal does
not have any mechanical force on it.

there will be forces on the high permeability material
they may not be useful forces (probably much of the force will be radial -
I haven't given it a whole lot of thought), but there will be forces present.

if you don't beleive me compare the behavior of sand and iron filings around
a running motor.

Bye.
Jasen

 

[Chris]

there will be forces on the high permeability material

they may not be useful forces (probably much of the force will be radial -
I haven't given it a whole lot of thought), but there will be forces
present.

if you don't beleive me compare the behavior of sand and iron filings
around
a running motor.

I suppose so. These things are quite complicated.

Chris.

 

[Chris]

Hello,

I've sent in my patent application, it might be accepted. It will be some
time before I hear but I may find my old employer has already made his
claim.

I doubt if it is original as there is nothing new.

Chris.

 

[Tumbleweed]

Hello,

I've sent in my patent application, it might be accepted. It will be some
time before I hear but I may find my old employer has already made his
claim.

I doubt if it is original as there is nothing new.

Yep you cant even patent a warp drive someone did that already