Selective Entry Delays Per Zone?

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I have an Ademco 20PS and was wondering if there was a way to set it up
such that only some zones have entry delays in Away mode. Ideally, I'd
like only the garage and front doors to have entry delays, while all
windows and backyard sliders would have 0 delay.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Crash Gordon®]

That is the normal way.

Entry/Exit type zone will have entry delay in Away & Stay (but not Stay Instant or Max)

Perimeter type zone will be Instant alarm unless someone opens Entry/Exit zone first.

Stay Instant will give you perimeter with no delay on anything.

IOW...put your garage & front doors on Entry/Exit type zone...put your doors/windows on Perimeter type zone. Put your motions on Interior Follower type zone.


| I have an Ademco 20PS and was wondering if there was a way to set it up
| such that only some zones have entry delays in Away mode. Ideally, I'd
| like only the garage and front doors to have entry delays, while all
| windows and backyard sliders would have 0 delay.
|
| Thanks in advance.
|

 

[Crash Gordon®]

iow...it's done in programming the zone Type.
shoulda put that in my first post.

That is the normal way.

Entry/Exit type zone will have entry delay in Away & Stay (but not Stay Instant or Max)

Perimeter type zone will be Instant alarm unless someone opens Entry/Exit zone first.

Stay Instant will give you perimeter with no delay on anything.

IOW...put your garage & front doors on Entry/Exit type zone...put your doors/windows on Perimeter type zone. Put your motions on Interior Follower type zone.


| I have an Ademco 20PS and was wondering if there was a way to set it up
| such that only some zones have entry delays in Away mode. Ideally, I'd
| like only the garage and front doors to have entry delays, while all
| windows and backyard sliders would have 0 delay.
|
| Thanks in advance.
|

 

[[email protected]]

Ah, thanks... I wasn't sure what purpose "Perimeter" served.

 

[Crash Gordon®]

I put glassbreaks on Perimeter type zone.
The manual assumes that you speak Alarmglish


| Ah, thanks... I wasn't sure what purpose "Perimeter" served.
|

 

[no wires showing]

Yet you find your alarm installation experience to be a better choice
than the professional alarm installers?
Hey Ma LOOK I just pulled one of my teeth out! I'm a dentist now! I'm a
dentist now!
Route Canal anyone?

 

[Crash Gordon®]

Root Canal




| Yet you find your alarm installation experience to be a better choice
| than the professional alarm installers?
| Hey Ma LOOK I just pulled one of my teeth out! I'm a dentist now! I'm a
| dentist now!
| Route Canal anyone?
|
|

 

[Roberto]

Yet you find your alarm installation experience to be a better choice
than the professional alarm installers?
Hey Ma LOOK I just pulled one of my teeth out! I'm a dentist now! I'm a
dentist now!
Route Canal anyone?

I did my own system because you can't hire any honest job done here. I'm
not saying it's like this everywhere, but there are times when DIY can be
the best option.

Bob

 

[no wires showing]

So it went over your head huh?

 

[Crash Gordon®]

Not really, just thought you culdnt spel ))


| So it went over your head huh?
|

 

[Robert L. Bass]

I did my own system because you can't hire any honest job done here. I'm

not saying it's like this everywhere, but there are times when DIY can be
the best option.

Quite true, but you're arguing with a guy who makes his living selling
installed systems. There's no way he'll ever admit you're right.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
2291 Pine View Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34231
877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>

 

[Crash Gordon®]

Robert...follow the thread though...he didn't even know what Perimeter meant.

Sure, some diy'ers can figure things out and do a good job...can you imagine what other programming mistakes could be made that would render a diy alarm rather worthless? I can.


| > I did my own system because you can't hire any honest job done here. I'm
| > not saying it's like this everywhere, but there are times when DIY can be
| > the best option.
|
| Quite true, but you're arguing with a guy who makes his living selling
| installed systems. There's no way he'll ever admit you're right.
|
| --
|
| Regards,
| Robert L Bass
|
| =============================>
| Bass Home Electronics
| 2291 Pine View Circle
| Sarasota · Florida · 34231
| 877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support
| http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
| =============================>
|
|

 

[Robert L. Bass]

Robert...follow the thread though...he didn't

even know what Perimeter meant.

In my comment about disingenuity I was referring to Fowler -- not you.

Sure, some diy'ers can figure things out and
do a good job...can you imagine what other
programming mistakes could be made that
would render a diy alarm rather worthless?
I can.

It is the responsibility of the DIY store to educate the client. Some of us
do. Others don't. I have a large number of DIY clients successfully using
complex panels like the ELK-M1 Gold and the Napco P9600 system. I also have
a few DIYers installing their own commercial fire alarms. One customer just
bought an addressable system with over 250 points for a hospital. It's not
that hard to learn this stuff. You need a modicum of intelligence and a bit
of patience. For commercial fire you also need a licensed electrician in
most places.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
2291 Pine View Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34231
877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>

 

[Crash Gordon®]

| > Robert...follow the thread though...he didn't
| > even know what Perimeter meant.
|
| In my comment about disingenuity I was referring to Fowler -- not you.

I know.



|
| > Sure, some diy'ers can figure things out and
| > do a good job...can you imagine what other
| > programming mistakes could be made that
| > would render a diy alarm rather worthless?
| > I can.
|
| It is the responsibility of the DIY store to educate the client. Some of us
| do. Others don't. I have a large number of DIY clients successfully using
| complex panels like the ELK-M1 Gold and the Napco P9600 system. I also have
| a few DIYers installing their own commercial fire alarms. One customer just
| bought an addressable system with over 250 points for a hospital. It's not
| that hard to learn this stuff. You need a modicum of intelligence and a bit
| of patience. For commercial fire you also need a licensed electrician in
| most places.

Commercial fire here requires separate licenses (not necessarily electric, but they are not automatically allowed to do commercial fire just because they have electric license) also plans must be submitted by Nicet 4 (I think it's 4 now).

There's also a residential fire license but no one has one of those, or even know that it exists.


|
| --
|
| Regards,
| Robert L Bass
|
| =============================>
| Bass Home Electronics
| 2291 Pine View Circle
| Sarasota · Florida · 34231
| 877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support
| http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
| =============================>
|
|

 

[bean]

| > Robert...follow the thread though...he didn't
| > even know what Perimeter meant.
|
| In my comment about disingenuity I was referring to Fowler -- not you.

I know.



|
| > Sure, some diy'ers can figure things out and
| > do a good job...can you imagine what other
| > programming mistakes could be made that
| > would render a diy alarm rather worthless?
| > I can.
|
Commercial fire here requires separate licenses (not necessarily electric,
but they are not automatically allowed to do commercial fire just because
they have electric license) also plans must be submitted by Nicet 4 (I think
it's 4 now).

There's also a residential fire license but no one has one of those, or even
know that it exists.

 

[Frank Olson]

I wonder what other laws he is s t r e t c h i n g ?

Common decency??

)

 

[Mark Leuck]

In my comment about disingenuity I was referring to Fowler -- not you.

As I recall Fowler DOES know perimeter zones and how to program them

 

[no wires showing]

Shhhhhhhhhhhh I place panels under beds, or did you forget?

 

[Frank Olson]

It is the responsibility of the DIY store to educate the client. Some of
us do.

Ahhh... the famous two hour "I'll teach you all about installing a system
professionally" support session... Let's see... you sell what?? 11
systems a day?? Here's what I've noticed... An individual purchases a
system from you and what happens?? They have to post *in this forum* to get
any response at all from you. By this point they're so frustrated from
getting your email "auto responder", and the "full mailbox" message on your
telephone system I doubt they'd ever purchase product from you again. Then
there's the matter of the screwed up orders. Your frequent "website rfresh"
messages, no access to your monitoring contract, references to your
providing "UL Listed monitoring service" when the station you're using
*does't* carry any such listing... The holidays in Brazil... The three
unresolved complaints at the BBB... Tsk!!!

Others don't.

Check. You're a perfect example...

I have a large number of DIY clients successfully using complex panels
like the ELK-M1 Gold and the Napco P9600 system.

Uh-huh... are these people at all related to the aeronautical engineers and
pilots you know??

I also have a few DIYers installing their own commercial fire alarms.

Of course you do!!

One customer just bought an addressable system with over 250 points for a
hospital.

Dr. Bass, please call... Dr. Bass??
Now we'll have to coach another one of your lucky customers through
installing and programming a panel while you're out sipping tropical bug
juice on the Lanai... or bassking on the beach in Bahia...

It's not that hard to learn this stuff.

Nope. Even you can. I'd advise you to keep the "Sentrol Application Guide"
handy for the times you do answer the phone... and make sure you tell the
client all about how *you* came up with all these brilliant solutions from
your "vast storehouse of knowledge and experience"...

You need a modicum of intelligence and a bit of patience.

Along with access to the internet (and alt.security.alarms) for when you're
not available...

For commercial fire you also need a licensed electrician in most places.

Which Nicet level have you reached?? "27"?? No... "31"... I know...
"28"... )

 

[Crash Gordon®]

who's fowler...ohhhh i'm sooo confusted now


|
| | > > Robert...follow the thread though...he didn't
| > > even know what Perimeter meant.
| >
| > In my comment about disingenuity I was referring to Fowler -- not you.
|
| As I recall Fowler DOES know perimeter zones and how to program them
|
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