Repairing JVC HR-S3910U S-VHS

[[email protected]]

Hello,

I have a JVC HR-S3910U S-VHS machine which had a problem accepting
certain tapes. The eject mechanism would make a funny squeeling noise
i.e. Similar to the sound of wiping a cloth on glass.

Tried using WD-40 to correct the problem, but now the machine does not
play any tapes. Instead, it makes a whirring sound ever time I press
play. (I think I applied a little too much WD-40 in the gear area,
the two black wheels which drive the tapes)

Is there a way to clean it, and make it work again? If so, which
areas should I be looking at?

Any info. is helpful.

 

[Mark D. Zacharias]

Hello,

I have a JVC HR-S3910U S-VHS machine which had a problem accepting
certain tapes. The eject mechanism would make a funny squeeling noise
i.e. Similar to the sound of wiping a cloth on glass.

Tried using WD-40 to correct the problem, but now the machine does not
play any tapes. Instead, it makes a whirring sound ever time I press
play. (I think I applied a little too much WD-40 in the gear area,
the two black wheels which drive the tapes)

Is there a way to clean it, and make it work again? If so, which
areas should I be looking at?

Any info. is helpful.

I'm just trying to suppress a gag reflex. It's been a long time since I've
encountered someone who actually thought they could fix something by
indiscriminately spraying WD-40 in there.
Back in the day, someone would occasionally bring in a car stereo with WD-40
literally dripping out of there when you tipped the piece up on it's side.

At the very least you are going to need to clean the WD of any rubber pieces
(belts or idlers) and off any drive surfaces which contact them. Even then
it's likely more WD will migrate back onto those drive surfaces.

Your original problem may have been nothing more than a bad belt, but at the
very least you have complicated the issue, perhaps effectively ruining and
practical hope of repair.

Sheesh.


Mark Z.

 

[neon]

you probably need a cheap belt replacement now you need a degreaser and belt replacement. and finaly whoo is using tapes these day. trew my away ages ago.

 

[Mike S]

After spraying WD-40 in your VCR (even a tiny amount) you should now throw
it in the garbage. You have likely destroyed it.

 

[[email protected]]

After spraying WD-40 in your VCR (even a tiny amount) you should now throw

LOL --- Yes, I think I got carried away with the WD-40, will have to
be more careful next time, not to do that, but to post here first for
any advice.

I got carried away: Will clean the surfaces and belt(s) as
suggested. Are there any WD-40 removers on the market?

Thanks for the helpful info.

 

[[email protected]]

After spraying WD-40 in your VCR (even a tiny amount) you should now throw

LOL --- Yes, I think I got carried away with the WD-40, will have to
be more careful next time, not to do that, but to post here first for
any advice

I got carried away: Will clean the surfaces and belt(s) as
suggested. Are there any WD-40 removers on the market?

Thanks for the helpful info.

P.S. I think I was inspired by an article on the web, which showed how
to fix a DVD player's drive mechanism (FYI, the Panasonic RV-32) using
WD-40. Thought that WD-40 would be a useful tool -- You guys are
right, will have to be more careful next time, and post here first for
any advice

 

[bz]

[email protected] wrote in

.....

LOL --- Yes, I think I got carried away with the WD-40, will have to
be more careful next time, not to do that, but to post here first for
any advice

I got carried away: Will clean the surfaces and belt(s) as
suggested. Are there any WD-40 removers on the market?

Pure alcohol.
Avoid methanol (unless you have very good ventilation) because it is toxic,
vapors toxic and it also absorbed through the skin.

Avoid 'rubbing alcohol', unless it is pure isopropyl alcohol, because it
can leave a residue

You can use 'Ever-clear' (195 proof vodka) [and even drink the part you
don't use].

Keep clear of ignition sources while using.

Thanks for the helpful info.

P.S. I think I was inspired by an article on the web, which showed how
to fix a DVD player's drive mechanism (FYI, the Panasonic RV-32) using
WD-40. Thought that WD-40 would be a useful tool -- You guys are
right, will have to be more careful next time, and post here first for
any advice

--
bz 73 de N5BZ k

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

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[[email protected]]

Cleaned the machine and parts as best I could, but with so many parts,
looks like it needs to be looked at. <Sigh> Well, first thing,
first, I am going to chuck the WD-40, and will not use it, ever
again.

Second, if it's going to cost me $70 or more to service it (which is
what I'm being quoted) I could go with a new machine, but with VHS
being phased out, it is difficult to get a good, four head machine
that gives true four head play back, the way it is supposed to. For
example: I had a look at some combo players today, but they did not
look that great (The housing for a Toshiba VHS/DVD Combo player was
terrible: It looked like the machine was from the late 80's, the
design at least. There was also a Samsung combo, looked a little
better, the button were small, very non descript.)

VHS has great value: There is a lot of misrepresentation and
misunderstanding of this fact, and it would be nice if manufacturers
still supported it, or at least had a high quality option available on
the market.


Any suggestions?

Pure alcohol.
Avoid methanol (unless you have very good ventilation) because it is toxic,
vapors toxic and it also absorbed through the skin.

Avoid 'rubbing alcohol', unless it is pure isopropyl alcohol, because it
can leave a residue

You can use 'Ever-clear' (195 proof vodka) [and even drink the part you
don't use].

Keep clear of ignition sources while using.

Thanks for the helpful info.

P.S. I think I was inspired by an article on the web, which showed how
to fix a DVD player's drive mechanism (FYI, the Panasonic RV-32) using
WD-40. Thought that WD-40 would be a useful tool -- You guys are
right, will have to be more careful next time, and post here first for
any advice

--
bz 73 de N5BZ k

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

[email protected] remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap

 

[[email protected]]

Cleaned the machine and parts as best I could, but with so many parts,
looks like it needs to be looked at. <Sigh> Well, first thing,
first, I am going to chuck the WD-40, and will not use it, ever
again, because the fumes smell terrible.

Second, if it's going to cost me $70 or more to service it (which is
what I'm being quoted) I could go with a new machine, but with VHS
being phased out, it is difficult to get a good, four head machine
that gives true four head play back, the way it is supposed to. For
example: I had a look at some combo players today, but they did not
look that great (The housing for a Toshiba VHS/DVD Combo player was
terrible: It looked like the machine was from the late 80's, the
design at least. There was also a Samsung combo, looked a little
better, the buttons were small, very non descript.)

VHS has great value: There is a lot of misrepresentation and
misunderstanding of this fact, and it would be nice if manufacturers
still supported it, or at least had a high quality option available on
the market.

Any suggestions for a high quality machine, or should I just have this
serviced?

Thanks for any info.

[email protected] wrote in
....

LOL --- Yes, I think I got carried away with the WD-40, will have to
be more careful next time, not to do that, but to post here first for
any advice

I got carried away: Will clean the surfaces and belt(s) as
suggested. Are there any WD-40 removers on the market?

Pure alcohol.
Avoid methanol (unless you have very good ventilation) because it is toxic,
vapors toxic and it also absorbed through the skin.

Avoid 'rubbing alcohol', unless it is pure isopropyl alcohol, because it
can leave a residue

You can use 'Ever-clear' (195 proof vodka) [and even drink the part you
don't use].

Keep clear of ignition sources while using.

Thanks for the helpful info.

P.S. I think I was inspired by an article on the web, which showed how
to fix a DVD player's drive mechanism (FYI, the Panasonic RV-32) using
WD-40. Thought that WD-40 would be a useful tool -- You guys are
right, will have to be more careful next time, and post here first for
any advice

--
bz 73 de N5BZ k

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

[email protected] remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap

 

[bz]

[email protected] wrote in

Cleaned the machine and parts as best I could, but with so many parts,
looks like it needs to be looked at. <Sigh> Well, first thing,
first, I am going to chuck the WD-40, and will not use it, ever
again.

It is quite useful, in its proper place.

Second, if it's going to cost me $70 or more to service it (which is
what I'm being quoted) I could go with a new machine, but with VHS
being phased out, it is difficult to get a good, four head machine
that gives true four head play back, the way it is supposed to. For
example: I had a look at some combo players today, but they did not
look that great (The housing for a Toshiba VHS/DVD Combo player was
terrible: It looked like the machine was from the late 80's, the
design at least. There was also a Samsung combo, looked a little
better, the button were small, very non descript.)

VHS has great value: There is a lot of misrepresentation and
misunderstanding of this fact, and it would be nice if manufacturers
still supported it, or at least had a high quality option available on
the market.

Any suggestions?

Two suggestions:
1) stop top posting http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html

2) watch the trash bins. I have 'rescued' three VCRs from the trash
[several TVs, stereos, microwave ovens, vacuum cleaners, computers,
monitors, a couple of swords, several chairs, a couple of desks, a sewing
table, a FAX, a couple of typewriters, an answering machine and a couch]
almost everything rescued was in working condition or was easy to fix.

.....



--
bz 73 de N5BZ k

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

[email protected] remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap

 

[[email protected]]

Two suggestions:
1) stop top postinghttp://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html

Good to see that netiquette is still around, and that the ng
netiquette is still around. Will bottom post from now on!

2) watch the trash bins. I have 'rescued' three VCRs from the trash
[several TVs, stereos, microwave ovens, vacuum cleaners, computers,
monitors, a couple of swords, several chairs, a couple of desks, a sewing
table, a FAX, a couple of typewriters, an answering machine and a couch]
almost everything rescued was in working condition or was easy to fix.

I actually trashed a better model VCR recently, largely because did
not want to spend the time replacing all the parts (eject mechanism
was broken) Great, great machine for its time, but since it was mid
1990's, did not want to have it around anymore, did not go past 1999
for timer recordings. Great machine though, even hard to find on e-
bay (A broken version is selling for $5, but not worth it for me)

Any recommendations on new VHS machines? Particularly one that would
have good, high quality 4 head play back? Of course, I could always
get this serviced as well, but is $70+ worth it?

 

[bz]

[email protected] wrote in 27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

Good to see that netiquette is still around, and that the ng
netiquette is still around. Will bottom post from now on!

Thanks. Good manners are always appreciated.

I actually trashed a better model VCR recently

Electronics should NOT go to landfill. Recycle.

, largely because did
not want to spend the time replacing all the parts (eject mechanism
was broken) Great, great machine for its time, but since it was mid
1990's, did not want to have it around anymore, did not go past 1999
for timer recordings. Great machine though, even hard to find on e-
bay (A broken version is selling for $5, but not worth it for me)

Any recommendations on new VHS machines? Particularly one that would
have good, high quality 4 head play back?
Sorry.

Of course, I could always
get this serviced as well, but is $70+ worth it?

You need to decide that yourself. My experience shows that most people
won't spend more than 1/3 the cost of a new unit to repair an old one.





--
bz

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

[email protected] remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap

 

[GMAN]

Hello,

I have a JVC HR-S3910U S-VHS machine which had a problem accepting
certain tapes. The eject mechanism would make a funny squeeling noise
i.e. Similar to the sound of wiping a cloth on glass.

Tried using WD-40 to correct the problem, but now the machine does not
play any tapes. Instead, it makes a whirring sound ever time I press
play. (I think I applied a little too much WD-40 in the gear area,
the two black wheels which drive the tapes)

Why put a water displacer product into a VCR?


If it slides, use a lubricant like Lubriplate (White Lithium Grease)or
MolyLube. If it spins , oil it with 3 in 1 or sewing machine oil sparingly.
Usually only 1 small drop.

People use WD-40 so incorrectly.

 

[GMAN]

LOL --- Yes, I think I got carried away with the WD-40, will have to
be more careful next time, not to do that, but to post here first for
any advice.

What we are all tring to say is what drove you to think that a water displacer
product sprayed willy nilly into an electronics device would benefit you in
anyway?

Did someone suggest this to you or did you read it on the internet? If so, let
us know where the advice came from , like say from a Wikipedia article or the
like so we can correct the fool.

 

[GMAN]

LOL --- Yes, I think I got carried away with the WD-40, will have to
be more careful next time, not to do that, but to post here first for
any advice.

I got carried away: Will clean the surfaces and belt(s) as
suggested. Are there any WD-40 removers on the market?

Yes, the trash can.

You could try this

http://www.falconsafety.com/dustOff/circuitBoard/ProductListing.
aspx?GroupId=101


or


http://shop.willyselectronics.com/browse.cfm/4,336.html

 

[UCLAN]

I actually trashed a better model VCR recently, largely because did
not want to spend the time replacing all the parts (eject mechanism
was broken) Great, great machine for its time, but since it was mid
1990's, did not want to have it around anymore, did not go past 1999
for timer recordings. Great machine though, even hard to find on e-
bay (A broken version is selling for $5, but not worth it for me)

The "did not go past 1999" issue can be resolved by using an identical
year, such as 1990 instead of 2007, 1998 instead of 2009, etc.

http://www.vpcalendar.net/Year_Correlations.html

Any recommendations on new VHS machines? Particularly one that would
have good, high quality 4 head play back? Of course, I could always
get this serviced as well, but is $70+ worth it?

If you can't find a suitable replacement, I'd say yes.

Get a good, guaranteed, used VCR. New standalone VCRs are few and far
between, and DVD/VCR combos are, as you said, garbage. Find a repair
shop that sells good used equipment. But hurry!

 

[[email protected]]

When I opened the VCR, I noticed something very peculiar: The right
reel has a spring sticking up, then down, in the caterpillar
position: It does not look broken though.

When trying to play the machine, the left reel moves, makes a funny
whirring sound, and then stops: It does not play the tape at all.

BTW, thanks for the degreaser suggestion, will look into that, but
where should I actually spray it?

Did someone suggest this to you or did you read it on the internet? If so, let
us know where the advice came from , like say from a Wikipedia article or the
like so we can correct the fool.

I was inspired by an article about repairing another unit I had, the
Panasonic RV-32 DVD player. About a year ago, there was an article up
on the web, found it via google, which showed, picture by picture, a
DVD player problem being "fixed" by WD-40. Since it worked for that,
I thought it would work for the VCR too, will be more careful next
time.

 

[b]

Cleaned the machine and parts as best I could, but with so many parts,
looks like it needs to be looked at. <Sigh> Well, first thing,

there's a limit to how much we can realistically achieve over the
internet without physically seeing the deck. perhaps a vid on you tube
may help? in any case, take it for a quote to a few repair places.
-B

 

[[email protected]]

On 10 jun, 08:26, [email protected] wrote:
there's a limit to how much we can realistically achieve over the
internet without physically seeing the deck. perhaps a vid on you tube
may help? in any case, take it for a quote to a few repair places.
-B

Good suggestions, will follow up...

 

[[email protected]]

Avoid 'rubbing alcohol', unless it is pure isopropyl alcohol,
because it

can leave a residue

Will get the degreaser as recommended, but until that arrives: Would
99% Isopropyl Alcohol solution help remove the WD-40 in the interim,
or would that leave a residue as well?


BTW: Can anyone recommend a good, original JVC parts supplier? This
VCR would not accept certain tapes after a while, and would like to
solve that problem as well, if I can clean out the WD-40 properly.