Regenerative Power supply

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Hello Pals
There is this concept that I don't understand. Its all about
generating power (AC of course)from from a group of batteriers and
tapping some of the output to charge the batteries-- so it becomes a
cycle. Infact I have challenged this concept until I head it in the
news that someone has developed one in Ghana and he is actually using
it to power his house and a car. My simple college physics tells me
that this will not be possible since no machine or device is 100%
efficient. Can someone brief me on this or show me where I can get more
info on this topic.
Thanks to all.

 

[Sam Goldwasser]

Hello Pals
There is this concept that I don't understand. Its all about
generating power (AC of course)from from a group of batteriers and
tapping some of the output to charge the batteries-- so it becomes a
cycle. Infact I have challenged this concept until I head it in the
news that someone has developed one in Ghana and he is actually using
it to power his house and a car. My simple college physics tells me
that this will not be possible since no machine or device is 100%
efficient. Can someone brief me on this or show me where I can get more
info on this topic.

In a word, BS.

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[kip]

This Guy in Ghana , Most probably has a relative in Nigeria
that wishes to put $10.000.000.00 into your Bank Account.
Haven't you answered your own question ?

kip

Hello Pals
There is this concept that I don't understand. Its all about
generating power (AC of course)from from a group of batteriers and
tapping some of the output to charge the batteries-- so it becomes a
cycle. Infact I have challenged this concept until I head it in the
news that someone has developed one in Ghana and he is actually using
it to power his house and a car.

My simple college physics tells me
that this will not be possible since no machine or device is 100%
efficient.

Can someone brief me on this or show me where I can get more

 

[Tom MacIntyre]

Hello Pals
There is this concept that I don't understand. Its all about
generating power (AC of course)from from a group of batteriers and
tapping some of the output to charge the batteries-- so it becomes a
cycle. Infact I have challenged this concept until I head it in the
news that someone has developed one in Ghana and he is actually using
it to power his house and a car. My simple college physics tells me
that this will not be possible since no machine or device is 100%
efficient. Can someone brief me on this or show me where I can get more
info on this topic.
Thanks to all.

There is no free lunch.

Seriously...the only thing I know of that does "something" like this,
more output than input (in appearance) is a heat pump, and it has an
auxiliary source of heat which actually provides the heat.

Tom

 

[NSM]

Hello Pals
There is this concept that I don't understand. Its all about
generating power (AC of course)from from a group of batteriers and
tapping some of the output to charge the batteries-- so it becomes a
cycle. Infact I have challenged this concept until I head it in the
news that someone has developed one in Ghana and he is actually using
it to power his house and a car. My simple college physics tells me
that this will not be possible since no machine or device is 100%
efficient. Can someone brief me on this or show me where I can get more
info on this topic.

Look for "free power" - often sold in 'Jesus' magazines.

http://freeenergynews.com

N

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

There is this concept that I don't understand. Its all about
generating power (AC of course)from from a group of batteriers and
tapping some of the output to charge the batteries-- so it becomes a
cycle. Infact I have challenged this concept until I head it in the
news that someone has developed one in Ghana and he is actually using
it to power his house and a car. My simple college physics tells me
that this will not be possible since no machine or device is 100%
efficient.

And converting AC to DC to charge batteries and then back again to AC is
going to be *very* much less than 100% efficient.

Snake oil springs to mind.

 

[darren]

I would say unless he running a superconductor it is impossible

 

[Sam Goldwasser]

I would say unless he running a superconductor it is impossible

Doesn't matter, impossible period.

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[Asimov]

"Sam Goldwasser" bravely wrote to "All" (28 Jun 05 15:32:03)
--- on the heady topic of "Re: Regenerative Power supply"

SG> From: Sam Goldwasser <[email protected]>
SG> Xref: aeinews sci.electronics.repair:51793

Hello Pals
There is this concept that I don't understand. Its all about
generating power (AC of course)from from a group of batteriers and
tapping some of the output to charge the batteries-- so it becomes a
cycle. Infact I have challenged this concept until I head it in the
news that someone has developed one in Ghana and he is actually using
it to power his house and a car. My simple college physics tells me
that this will not be possible since no machine or device is 100%
efficient. Can someone brief me on this or show me where I can get more
info on this topic.

SG> In a word, BS.

That is 2 words... the right word to use would be: "kook"!
Similar to the idea of running a car engine on dihydrogen oxide.

A*s*i*m*o*v

.... Wasted power is current squared times the resistance.

 

[NSM]

Doesn't matter, impossible period.

Except in the Twilight Zone!

N

 

[Sam Goldwasser]

Except in the Twilight Zone!

Apparently, that's where too many people dwell these days.

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[Jim Potter]

Hello Pals
There is this concept that I don't understand. Its all about
generating power (AC of course)from from a group of batteriers and
tapping some of the output to charge the batteries-- so it becomes a
cycle. Infact I have challenged this concept until I head it in the
news that someone has developed one in Ghana and he is actually using
it to power his house and a car. My simple college physics tells me
that this will not be possible since no machine or device is 100%
efficient. Can someone brief me on this or show me where I can get more
info on this topic.
Thanks to all.

Your college physics is correct. It is always the case that these things
either don't work or there is some unaccounted for source of energy.
Usually there is fraud involved.

Jim

 

[Tom MacIntyre]

"Sam Goldwasser" bravely wrote to "All" (28 Jun 05 15:32:03)
--- on the heady topic of "Re: Regenerative Power supply"

SG> From: Sam Goldwasser <[email protected]>
SG> Xref: aeinews sci.electronics.repair:51793



SG> In a word, BS.

That is 2 words... the right word to use would be: "kook"!
Similar to the idea of running a car engine on dihydrogen oxide.

A*s*i*m*o*v

"What-ur" you talking about?

Tom

 

[quietguy]

Or the advertising world inhabited by scam artists

David

 

[Sal Brisindi]

I built the same thing the guy in Ghana built, it works great but the
batteries keep dying... ;-)

Sal

 

[Ken Weitzel]

I built the same thing the guy in Ghana built, it works great but the
batteries keep dying... ;-)

Sal

You've probably overlooked the fact that on this side
of the equator the polarity is reversed.

Just put the batteries in other way around and you'll
be OK

Ken

 

[Sal Brisindi]

Ken,
I'll give that a shot, do I have to install the batteries upside down too?

Sal

 

[Franc Zabkar]

Hello Pals
There is this concept that I don't understand. Its all about
generating power (AC of course)from from a group of batteriers and
tapping some of the output to charge the batteries-- so it becomes a
cycle. Infact I have challenged this concept until I head it in the
news that someone has developed one in Ghana and he is actually using
it to power his house and a car. My simple college physics tells me
that this will not be possible since no machine or device is 100%
efficient. Can someone brief me on this or show me where I can get more
info on this topic.
Thanks to all.

The best you can achieve in a car is to use the car's own kinetic
energy to partially recharge its batteries when the car is coasting,
or to use the car's kinetic energy to assist in braking.


- Franc Zabkar

 

[James Sweet]

I saw something of this nature about 10 years ago, it's an investment scam,
no machine can violate the laws of science.

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

The best you can achieve in a car is to use the car's own kinetic
energy to partially recharge its batteries when the car is coasting,

No point in that unless you're stopping.

or to use the car's kinetic energy to assist in braking.

Instead of friction brakes you use the load from the charging system to
slow the car. So instead of wasting energy in the form of heat from the
friction of the brakes, you put that energy into the batteries.

But there's nothing new about this - things like the London tube trains
have done this for years, although they don't charge batteries but dump
that energy back into the power supply which then effectively gets used by
other trains.

IC engined buses might spin up a flywheel to brake then use this stored
energy to help start off again.

IIRC, the term is regenerative braking.