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Trevor Wilson

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David L. Jones

**Yep. It's hilarious. Qantas will use *any* excuse, other than admitting
that they've been using the cheapest maintenance possible for the last few
years. Just ask a Qantas pilot how they feel about the company. It's scary
stuff.

Looks like they are cutting back a bit on compensation too:
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=101817
I know someone who was on the Qantas flight a few years back that ran
off the end of the runway. They got a first class round-the-world
ticket as compensation, and for keeping quiet of course. Plus they got
a bonus slide down the inflatable stairways.

Dave.
 
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TomTom

atec77 said:
Another way to hide failures in maintenance

since moving much of this offshore the problems have grown massively
. Bring the crews back to Australia and see the problems disappear.

So, all the armchair experts have decided, with absolutely no supporting
information, that the problem was caused by a maintenance failure.

What a lot of morons. Go on - deny it.
 
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Trevor Wilson

TomTom said:
So, all the armchair experts have decided, with absolutely no supporting
information, that the problem was caused by a maintenance failure.

**It's a fair bet. Qantas have cut corners WRT aircraft maintenance. Ask a
Qantas pilot. They'll tell how bad things are.
 
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TomTom

Trevor said:
**It's a fair bet. Qantas have cut corners WRT aircraft maintenance.
Ask a Qantas pilot. They'll tell how bad things are.

The wild speculation, so far, includes - pilot error, computer malfunction,
CAT, electronic interference from laptops being used by passengers,
maintenance failure. The plane is apparently not damaged. Some passengers
are, mainly because they didn't have their seat-belts fastened, or were hit
by un-seatbelted passengers.

Which of your three testicles will you bet on your guess in that fair bet?
 
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Den

TomTom said:
The wild speculation, so far, includes - pilot error, computer
malfunction, CAT, electronic interference from laptops being used by
passengers, maintenance failure. The plane is apparently not damaged.
Some passengers


Speculation now also includes atmospheric disruption due to the baby
asteroid that entered the atmosphere toward Africa.
 
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Davo

Den said:
Speculation now also includes atmospheric disruption due to the baby
asteroid that entered the atmosphere toward Africa.

I'll start believing there's a real problem when the pilots start
wearing parachutes.
 
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Don McKenzie

David said:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/news/qantas-plunge-laptop-link/2008/10/09/1223145494293.html

Yeah right, just like mobile phones ignite petrol pumps.

The funny thing is people will actually believe this rubbish.

Dave.

I have often thought that one should be disabling, or switching off
wireless networks during flights. Mind you, I have never found a network
in flight.

Rumour file on 3AW today, Qantas will be collecting electronic items
before all flights. I doubt that they could do that, may be more
practical to disallow use of these items during flights.

Cheers Don...


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TomTom

Den said:
Speculation now also includes atmospheric disruption due to the baby
asteroid that entered the atmosphere toward Africa.

You know full well that this is not speculation, and that it was an alien
space-craft.
 
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TomTom

Don said:
Rumour file on 3AW today, Qantas will be collecting electronic items
before all flights. I doubt that they could do that, may be more
practical to disallow use of these items during flights.

Watch out for your pacemaker...
 
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John Tserkezis

Don said:
Rumour file on 3AW today, Qantas will be collecting electronic items
before all flights. I doubt that they could do that, may be more
practical to disallow use of these items during flights.

Good, they can stow my entire bag for me then. I travel tech heavy, and
usually just throw a few clothes into the laptop case if it's going to be a
short trip. The rest are assorted attachments, peripherals, whatnot etc.

I've always wondered why they want me to take out the laptop itself, when I
have a huge array of other electronic shit in the bag too.

Once on the plane, and they ask what electronic shit I have, I just hand
them my entire bag. It's got to be easier than emptying the thing out.

Where are they going to put all my shit?

The overhead compartment where I was going to put it in the first place?

Or are they collecting before boarding, where they stow with normal luggage?
So they're liable when laptops start coming back bent in half because the
baggage handlers threw it in frustration because they didn't find a camel head?
 
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David L. Jones

At the end of August I flew Emirates to Europe and they were
advertising that soon they would offer in flight net access
and mobile phone support via satellite.

Now my question is "If these planes are so susceptible to
all this electronic radiation then why would they install
wireless networks on their planes?"

Because it's not a problem, never has been.
And technical people who know don't get to make the decisions, ever.
It's easier to ban something than allow it.
Same reason why they still put "turn off your mobile phone" warning
stickers on petrol pumps.

Dave.
 
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Mr.T

John Tserkezis said:
Or are they collecting before boarding, where they stow with normal luggage?
So they're liable when laptops start coming back bent in half because
the

Liable? Good luck trying to actually get compensation!
Hope you have (and can afford) a good lawyer.

MrT.
 
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Eeyore

Trevor said:
**Yep. It's hilarious. Qantas will use *any* excuse, other than admitting
that they've been using the cheapest maintenance possible for the last few
years. Just ask a Qantas pilot how they feel about the company. It's scary
stuff.

And how will 'maintence' corrupt the FMC/FMS ?

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Trevor said:
**It's a fair bet. Qantas have cut corners WRT aircraft maintenance. Ask a
Qantas pilot. They'll tell how bad things are.

I know that but ordinary maintenance won't affect the integrity of the flight computers. Hence
it's virtually a dead cert it's not that.

EMC is a REAL issue.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

TomTom said:
The plane is apparently not damaged. Some passengers
are, mainly because they didn't have their seat-belts fastened, or were hit
by un-seatbelted passengers.

Why will they never learn ?

Graham
 
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