OT: Combined Electrical and Coax Outlet

[Jim Thompson]

Trying to avoid cutting another hole in the house walls...

Does anyone make a COMBINED electrical AND coax (type-F) outlet?

...Jim Thompson

 

[Fred Bartoli]

Trying to avoid cutting another hole in the house walls...

Does anyone make a COMBINED electrical AND coax (type-F) outlet?

Why don't you design a dedicated multiplexer?

 

[Jim Thompson]

Why don't you design a dedicated multiplexer?

Sno-o-o-o-ort ;-)

...Jim Thompson

 

[Howard Eisenhauer]

Trying to avoid cutting another hole in the house walls...

Does anyone make a COMBINED electrical AND coax (type-F) outlet?

...Jim Thompson

Jim, AFAIK most electrical codes frown on putting commercial power &
low voltage lines (i.e. phone, cable, intercom etc.) in the same box,
at least if they're not fed from the same source. I'm guessing
there's a good reason for this-

That aside if the power common or ground make contact with the cable
sheath you may end up with some killer hum bars running through
"Everybody Loves Ramond"

Hmmm, come to think of it, that may not be such a bad thing .

H.

 

[The Real Andy]

Trying to avoid cutting another hole in the house walls...

Does anyone make a COMBINED electrical AND coax (type-F) outlet?

...Jim Thompson

Get a normal electrical plate with 2 switches, pop the spare switch
out and pop a coax connector in....That if the work that way in AZ

 

[Jim Thompson]

Jim, AFAIK most electrical codes frown on putting commercial power &
low voltage lines (i.e. phone, cable, intercom etc.) in the same box,
at least if they're not fed from the same source. I'm guessing
there's a good reason for this-

That aside if the power common or ground make contact with the cable
sheath you may end up with some killer hum bars running through
"Everybody Loves Ramond"

Hmmm, come to think of it, that may not be such a bad thing .

Could be ;-)

H.

Surfing I've found a plastic box with a partition rated for a low
voltage device plus an AC device... box, but no components.

I may just have to bite the bullet and cut another hole, but it's an
outside wall... thick stucco, not fun, or easy to be neat, to chisel
out :-(

...Jim Thompson

 

[Fred Bartoli]

Sno-o-o-o-ort ;-)

I just remember:

A friend of mine had the silly idea to mux hot and cold water in the same
copper pipe to get warm water into a small room without installing a second
pipe

 

[Martin Riddle]

I see Leviton has a duplex outlet plate that is as large as a dual duplex box.
You could use the blank side and put the F connector there.

http://www.levitonvoicedata.com/catalog/BuildPage.aspx?BuildPageID=1514

Cheers

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Could be ;-)


Surfing I've found a plastic box with a partition rated for a low
voltage device plus an AC device... box, but no components.

I may just have to bite the bullet and cut another hole, but it's an
outside wall... thick stucco, not fun, or easy to be neat, to chisel
out :-(

...Jim Thompson

Oh, quit whining. It should be easy for a chisler like you.

 

[Chuck Harris]

Trying to avoid cutting another hole in the house walls...

Does anyone make a COMBINED electrical AND coax (type-F) outlet?

...Jim Thompson

I really doubt it, NEC frowns upon signaling wires being grouped
with power wires in a receptical box. They like to see the two
run at least 1 foot apart in walls.

-Chuck

 

[Lord Garth]

Trying to avoid cutting another hole in the house walls...

Does anyone make a COMBINED electrical AND coax (type-F) outlet?

I did this with a double box and decora fixtures....Seems they only sell
phone and coax probably because of the remote possibility of the shield
contacting the hot side. You can reduce this possibility by keeping the
coax on the grounded side of the outlet and securing the coax within
the box.

 

[qrk]

Could be ;-)


Surfing I've found a plastic box with a partition rated for a low
voltage device plus an AC device... box, but no components.

I may just have to bite the bullet and cut another hole, but it's an
outside wall... thick stucco, not fun, or easy to be neat, to chisel
out :-(

...Jim Thompson

As people suggested, NEC probably doesn't allow this. Big hassle with
your insurance company if you should have a fire, even if it's
unrelated to the combo outlet.

See if you can get a tungstun carbide blade for a jig saw. I got some
for my Sawzall when I had to cut ceramic pipe. Just make sure you
don't cut up any thing important in the walls!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

I did this with a double box and decora fixtures....Seems they only sell
phone and coax probably because of the remote possibility of the shield
contacting the hot side. You can reduce this possibility by keeping the
coax on the grounded side of the outlet and securing the coax within
the box.

And you would still be in violation of multiple electrical codes.

 

[Lord Garth]

And you would still be in violation of multiple electrical codes.

Of that, I am certain but that is what the home owner wanted and for the
same reason as Jim. I am certain there will be no short as I installed a
divider in the box.

 

[Watson A.Name - \Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\]

Trying to avoid cutting another hole in the house walls...

Does anyone make a COMBINED electrical AND coax (type-F) outlet?

...Jim Thompson
--

It is illegal to mix low voltage class 2 wiring such as coax and cat5
with the AC power.

 

[Watson A.Name - \Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\]

Could be ;-)


Surfing I've found a plastic box with a partition rated for a low
voltage device plus an AC device... box, but no components.

I may just have to bite the bullet and cut another hole, but it's an
outside wall... thick stucco, not fun, or easy to be neat, to chisel
out :-(

...Jim Thompson
--

Just drill a small round hole for the coax to come thru and mount a
surface mount box on the wall, and use silicone seal if moisture is a
problem. There's nothing that says it has to be an electrical outlet
type faceplate to hold a coax connector. If you insist on a faceplate,
then mount a Panduit or Wiremold box to hold the faceplate.

 

[Chuck Harris]

Of that, I am certain but that is what the home owner wanted and for the
same reason as Jim. I am certain there will be no short as I installed a
divider in the box.

If you put a divider in the box, then the box will be in violation for
wire fill size. This is a very bad thing to do in the eyes of the NEC,
and the insurance companies.

There are things that you haven't thought of, such as what happens if
the electrical system undergoes a lightning strike.

-Chuck

 

[Jim Thompson]

Just drill a small round hole for the coax to come thru and mount a
surface mount box on the wall, and use silicone seal if moisture is a
problem. There's nothing that says it has to be an electrical outlet
type faceplate to hold a coax connector. If you insist on a faceplate,
then mount a Panduit or Wiremold box to hold the faceplate.

That's a good idea, Watson! Three easily drilled holes, one for the
coax, two to mount the faceplate into plastic anchors.

Problem solved!

...Jim Thompson

 

[Jim Thompson]

Of that, I am certain but that is what the home owner wanted and for the
same reason as Jim. I am certain there will be no short as I installed a
divider in the box.

If you put a divider in the box, then the box will be in violation for
wire fill size. [snip]
-Chuck

That apparently is not correct. I HAVE found plastic outlet boxes
with a molded-in divider, for mixed AC and "low voltage devices".

...Jim Thompson

 

[John Larkin]

Trying to avoid cutting another hole in the house walls...

Does anyone make a COMBINED electrical AND coax (type-F) outlet?

...Jim Thompson

Why not buy a blank plate and drill a few holes?

John