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OK Folks. Im a rank ameteur and ignorant at that...

J

JACK WINN

I was just wondering... why cant you build a wind generator system with a
car alternator or generator?? If speed is an issue, both are designed to
run very high rpms. I probably dont know enough but Ive heard other people
ask the same thing.... SOooo Im asking!

JackW
 
R

Robert Morien

JACK WINN said:
I was just wondering... why cant you build a wind generator system with a
car alternator or generator?? If speed is an issue, both are designed to
run very high rpms. I probably dont know enough but Ive heard other people
ask the same thing.... SOooo Im asking!

JackW

There's rank amateurs and then there are rank amateurs...why would you
ask a wind generator question in a photovoltaic group?

suggest you use google
 
J

JACK WINN

UMMMMMM MAYBE BEACUSE JUST A LITTLE

HIGHER IN THE THREADS WAS....
SteveSpence's _"fixing the rotor blade to the shaft" and...
Ignoramus31471's _ :windmill completed today (just now)" and....
Andy Baker's "Appropriate Generator for high speed"...

DIDNT KNOW SOLAR ENERGY DEPENDED ON GENERATORS, PROPELLORS OR SHAFTS!!! OR
EVEN WINDMILLS....

SORRY TO BOTHER YOU. WONT MAKE THE MISTAKE OF ASKING QUESTIONS OF YOU HERE
AGAIN...

NOT WORTH THE BOTHER APPARANTLY
 
M

m II

JACK said:
SORRY TO BOTHER YOU. WONT MAKE THE MISTAKE OF ASKING QUESTIONS OF YOU HERE
AGAIN...

NOT WORTH THE BOTHER APPARANTLY


It didn't bother me at all. I was trying to be helpful. I know I can't get
any windmill newsgroups here, so I had to use the web. The links I gave you
were enough to get started. Some of those pages had a LOT of other sites on
them.

Please, don't be so thin skinned.




mike

--
A few GymyBobisms..the saga continues:
======================================

At 11.6 volts a 12v battery is about 50-70% charged still.

Polish solar panels are what americans called "flashlights"

Propane will disapate and freeze when it evaporates.

Gasoline is not nearly as volatile as hydrogen.

Many people have browsers that economize the download

Let's say youre solar cell was trying to put out
14.3 volts DC and you stuck a 10 ohm meter in series with a charged 13.8
volt DC battery.

This is power grid induction through capacitive proximity

A thought I have is rain water from a roof on a three story home through a
micro-turbine.

Breakers are good for one time usage of one fault and then they need to be
replaced for any warrantied usage.

If the breaker interupts a fault, it should be replaced.No warranty will
honoured after that.

I don't have a link at this time

There are no hydrogen molecules in water and the oxygen in water isn't
flammable either.

NiCads and NiMh batterries are designed to take a current charge forever.

Did they have electricity back in 1994?

I have been around so long with this stuff I believe I invented the diode in
1941 but I am not familiar with the solar panel usage requirements of them.
(no P & N substrate explanations please. I wrote the GE manual...LOL)

NOTE: do not pass ground wires through metal holes or cable clamps with two
screws on a metal surface.

There is **NOT*** enough energy in a lightning bolt to power your house for
more than an hour...if that. Do the math.
The figures escape me but let's say it puts out a roughly MWatt of power for
100 nanoseconds?
100 x 10-9 x 1 x 106 / 3600 (sec/hr) = 0.0027 wH
oooops.... Wouldn't light your home for a 1/2 second.
OK..OK.. multiply the figures time 100 or 1000. Now it would light a 100W
bulb for 1 second.

The IEEE-232 standards were never followed or known by many.

Fossil fuels are still renewable and being cxreated as we speak.

Children are venerially created.

If you want to discuss this then fine, otherwise go **** yourself like your
mother did.

Can you let go of my dick before it explodes on ya, goofball?

Petroleum is not related to Natural gas.

I would rather work at my $100/hour job than at chopping wood for hours to
save $3/hour

I have no license, I wire and inspect other's wiring for a job and work for
a medium size electrical utility.

The majority prefers top posting.

Get your tear ducts flushed by a knowledgeable optometrist.

Not many materials have the huge exponential resistance/heat curve aluminum
does. Overload doesn't make it glow like copper...it flashes and explodes.

A bathroom fan motor would never push hot air down ten feet or cold up ten
feet.

Bathroom fans have a hard time pushing 55 cfm through a 3-4" pipe 20
horizontal feet. They are made to vent smells and humid air horizontally
only.

Why not spend the money on a contract with the grid company and get an
exclusive line to your house and never have brownouts.

Usenet rules dictate top posting for readability

Many cell modems are set up to filter bottom posts out.

Cell modems do not cut off anything.

What security flaws. (refering to Outlook Express)

Bottom posting was the was in the 70s and 80s before threading browsers were
available cheap (like OE)

What is a PMW?

10 pounds per gallon Imperial. That gallon is totally unique to the
US....ooops..I think all gallons are unique to the US now.

The copper isn't worth more than 5 cents per pound. It is classed a mixed
copper and nobody wants it.

Hey moron! The copper is considered "mixed" copper and is worth about $0.02
per pound, if he seperates it all.

Just don't ever lose weight. Toxins are stored in your fat cells.

Did you know, **NO***, I repeat ***NO*** death has ever been related to
PCBs?

Insulated square copper wires from a dry transformer are not 99% copper and
take a lot of work to remove the insulation.

I have tonnes of insulated copper wire if you want it. I think you could
almost have for the picking it up. How many bins can you take per year

Can't this tranformer be used by somebody to generate a second 120V from a
single phase 120V inverter? It sounds pretty beefy.

BTW: once you knock the wedge out of the coil form the laminations will be
easier to get out. This keeps them from buzzing until the varnish and other
impregnations go into it.

All you guys have a bad Christmas or Jewish and didn't see Santa or something?
 
J

JACK WINN

Mike, Thank you for your polite answer and the information. I was responding
to the other person who made the following comment.


"There's rank amateurs and then there are rank amateurs...why would you
ask a wind generator question in a photovoltaic group?

suggest you use google"

I belong to other groups that are friendly, helpful and polite to start
with. When a newbie comes in and asks a qestion that isnt appropriate or has
been asked before, we dont insult him we help him. I guess theres always
those who dont want to bother with being helpful, just difficult. I do
appreciate the links u gave and Ill try and look at them closer
tonight...Thank you again for your kindess.

Jack
....
 
R

Robert Morien

JACK WINN said:
Mike, Thank you for your polite answer and the information. I was responding
to the other person who made the following comment.


"There's rank amateurs and then there are rank amateurs...why would you
ask a wind generator question in a photovoltaic group?

That was me.

suggest you use google"

Did you use google? Did you see if the question had already been
answered? Is there some reason you haven't posted to or searched for
answers in alt.energy.renewable or alt.energy.homepower?

I belong to other groups that are friendly, helpful and polite to start
with. When a newbie comes in and asks a qestion that isnt appropriate or has
been asked before, we dont insult him we help him.

What part of suggesting you use google wasn't helpful.

I guess theres always
those who dont want to bother with being helpful, just difficult. I do
appreciate the links u gave and Ill try and look at them closer
tonight...Thank you again for your kindess.

And here I was waiting for an exciting answer to why you posted the
question here and all it turned out to be was sheer laziness.
 
G

George Ghio

JACK WINN said:
I was just wondering... why cant you build a wind generator system with a
car alternator or generator?? If speed is an issue, both are designed to
run very high rpms. I probably dont know enough but Ive heard other people
ask the same thing.... SOooo Im asking!

JackW

Wind is in fact a form of solar power.
 
M

m II

George said:
Wind is in fact a form of solar power.

as is coal...if you go back far enough in the chain.



mike


--
A few GymyBobisms..the saga continues:
======================================

At 11.6 volts a 12v battery is about 50-70% charged still.

Polish solar panels are what americans called "flashlights"

Propane will disapate and freeze when it evaporates.

Gasoline is not nearly as volatile as hydrogen.

Many people have browsers that economize the download

Let's say youre solar cell was trying to put out
14.3 volts DC and you stuck a 10 ohm meter in series with a charged 13.8
volt DC battery.

This is power grid induction through capacitive proximity

A thought I have is rain water from a roof on a three story home through a
micro-turbine.

Breakers are good for one time usage of one fault and then they need to be
replaced for any warrantied usage.

If the breaker interupts a fault, it should be replaced.No warranty will
honoured after that.

I don't have a link at this time

There are no hydrogen molecules in water and the oxygen in water isn't
flammable either.

NiCads and NiMh batterries are designed to take a current charge forever.

Did they have electricity back in 1994?

I have been around so long with this stuff I believe I invented the diode in
1941 but I am not familiar with the solar panel usage requirements of them.
(no P & N substrate explanations please. I wrote the GE manual...LOL)

NOTE: do not pass ground wires through metal holes or cable clamps with two
screws on a metal surface.

There is **NOT*** enough energy in a lightning bolt to power your house for
more than an hour...if that. Do the math.
The figures escape me but let's say it puts out a roughly MWatt of power for
100 nanoseconds?
100 x 10-9 x 1 x 106 / 3600 (sec/hr) = 0.0027 wH
oooops.... Wouldn't light your home for a 1/2 second.
OK..OK.. multiply the figures time 100 or 1000. Now it would light a 100W
bulb for 1 second.

The IEEE-232 standards were never followed or known by many.

Fossil fuels are still renewable and being cxreated as we speak.

Children are venerially created.

If you want to discuss this then fine, otherwise go **** yourself like your
mother did.

Can you let go of my dick before it explodes on ya, goofball?

Petroleum is not related to Natural gas.

I would rather work at my $100/hour job than at chopping wood for hours to
save $3/hour

I have no license, I wire and inspect other's wiring for a job and work for
a medium size electrical utility.

The majority prefers top posting.

Get your tear ducts flushed by a knowledgeable optometrist.

Not many materials have the huge exponential resistance/heat curve aluminum
does. Overload doesn't make it glow like copper...it flashes and explodes.

A bathroom fan motor would never push hot air down ten feet or cold up ten
feet.

Bathroom fans have a hard time pushing 55 cfm through a 3-4" pipe 20
horizontal feet. They are made to vent smells and humid air horizontally
only.

Why not spend the money on a contract with the grid company and get an
exclusive line to your house and never have brownouts.

Usenet rules dictate top posting for readability

Many cell modems are set up to filter bottom posts out.

Cell modems do not cut off anything.

What security flaws. (refering to Outlook Express)

Bottom posting was the was in the 70s and 80s before threading browsers were
available cheap (like OE)

What is a PMW?

10 pounds per gallon Imperial. That gallon is totally unique to the
US....ooops..I think all gallons are unique to the US now.

The copper isn't worth more than 5 cents per pound. It is classed a mixed
copper and nobody wants it.

Hey moron! The copper is considered "mixed" copper and is worth about $0.02
per pound, if he seperates it all.

Just don't ever lose weight. Toxins are stored in your fat cells.

Did you know, **NO***, I repeat ***NO*** death has ever been related to
PCBs?

Insulated square copper wires from a dry transformer are not 99% copper and
take a lot of work to remove the insulation.

I have tonnes of insulated copper wire if you want it. I think you could
almost have for the picking it up. How many bins can you take per year

Can't this tranformer be used by somebody to generate a second 120V from a
single phase 120V inverter? It sounds pretty beefy.

BTW: once you knock the wedge out of the coil form the laminations will be
easier to get out. This keeps them from buzzing until the varnish and other
impregnations go into it.

All you guys have a bad Christmas or Jewish and didn't see Santa or something?

Run each signal twisted with a ground for noise. RD twisted with gnd as a
pair, TD twisted around ground as a pair etc... This means signal/logic
ground not power ground or case ground, if they are different. Do not
connect the other ends of the ground conductors.

Tar pitch in a flourescent ballast does ***NOT*** contain PCBs and probably
never did.

Religion is not genetic or even herodigious

I believe the warmest part of the lake is just below the ice. As the water
frezes it rises to the top and joins the other ice formations.
 
G

Gareth

Just wondering George - do you ever contribute anything useful? You always
seem to be having a go at people...
 
G

George Ghio

Robert bagged Jack who posted a wind question on a photovoltaic NG. Even
though the guy admitted to being a rank novice.


Alright it was the wrong place for the question but it was still a valid
request from someone who has an interest in renewale energy.

Jack then posted:

SORRY TO BOTHER YOU. WONT MAKE THE MISTAKE OF ASKING QUESTIONS OF YOU
HERE
AGAIN...

NOT WORTH THE BOTHER APPARANTLY.

Jack has had a great start to his interest in renewables thanks to
Robert who for the most part has done nothing but ask advice, ignor said
advice then complain about the result.

And to answer your question. Yes, even if it is pointing out that the
motor that Nick proposes for pumping does not have the duty cycle
required.

Misinformation is rife on NGs.

From people who can't work out days of autonomy to people who don't know
"azmuth" from "altitude".
 
R

Robert Morein

JACK WINN said:
Mike, Thank you for your polite answer and the information. I was responding
to the other person who made the following comment.


"There's rank amateurs and then there are rank amateurs...why would you
ask a wind generator question in a photovoltaic group?

suggest you use google"

I belong to other groups that are friendly, helpful and polite to start
with. When a newbie comes in and asks a qestion that isnt appropriate or has
been asked before, we dont insult him we help him. I guess theres always
those who dont want to bother with being helpful, just difficult. I do
appreciate the links u gave and Ill try and look at them closer
tonight...Thank you again for your kindess.

Jack
...
Also, the post is a semi-forgery, altering my name by the transposition of
two letters.
There is a guy who goes by the names "nousefulinfo", "Prostate Cancer Man",
and "Robert Morien"
A while back, he took issue with my questions about building a battery box.

Agreed, that any newbie deserves a courteous and helpful reply.
 
D

daestrom

From people who can't work out days of autonomy to people who don't know
"azmuth" from "altitude".

And people that can't spell. The correct spelling is "azimuth", not
"azmuth"...

daestrom
 
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