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My PC-illiterate buddy just moved into a new home, and is thinking
about installing a do-it-yourself alarm system. The easier to install
the better, but he wants to get a good quality one. His walls are
already finished, which might make a wired system harder to install.
Can someone recommend a particular brand or model so that I may point
him in the right direction?
Is wireless the way to go?
Thanks in advance.
 
B

Bob La Londe

My PC-illiterate buddy just moved into a new home, and is thinking
about installing a do-it-yourself alarm system. The easier to install
the better, but he wants to get a good quality one. His walls are
already finished, which might make a wired system harder to install.
Can someone recommend a particular brand or model so that I may point
him in the right direction?
Is wireless the way to go?
Thanks in advance.


For a "decent" alarm system there is no really completely wireless system.
There are a few that are close. For ease of installation not much is easier
than a Simon.

Phone and power still need to be wired. Same with an outside siren.
 
J

julian

My PC-illiterate buddy just moved into a new home, and is thinking
about installing a do-it-yourself alarm system. The easier to install
the better, but he wants to get a good quality one. His walls are
already finished, which might make a wired system harder to install.
Can someone recommend a particular brand or model so that I may point
him in the right direction?
Is wireless the way to go?
Thanks in advance.


So he's PC-illiterate and he's thinking about installing his own
alarm. Good thing it hasn't got past the thinking part; if he can't
figure out a simple PC, how the hell is he going to figure out an
alarm system on his own

That's the EXACT REASON I don't retail equipment to people. Good
freakin' luck.

This must be the same guy who's going to avoid high gas prices by
drilling for oil and refining his own gasoline onsite.

Julian
 
The Simon is a great wireless system. I absolutely love it but for
what your freind needs, this might not be enough. A better panel would
be the Visonic Powermax. The only reason it's better is because it can
dial up to 4 different numbers and then initiate a two-way voice
session. What this means is he can actually hear what's going on
inside the house and talk to the intruder/unexpected visitor/wife's
boyfreind/whatever and actually verify the alarm himself. If the Simon
offers this, I'm unaware. The Ver. 2 did not but Ver. 3 may, I haven't
used that panel much but I do like Simon. The best damn x-10
functionality out of any alarm panel on the market plus it's easy to
program. The visonic has x-10 features but they're no where near as
good or as versatile. I guess it depends on what you want to do with
the system.

I'd watch E-bay for one of these system. You shouldn't pay anymore
than $250 for a complete kit, if you do, you're paying too much. If
you need help programming either one, the vendors offer excellent
customer service but it's not usually for end-users. There is some
technical knowledge that he is going to need to put this thing in but I
imagine finding someone to help won't be too difficult if he runs into
problems. I know there's some companies out there that will program
the thing for you right over the phone for about $25 or you can find a
local wholesaler and try and find an installer whose looking for work
on the side. Call the distributor and tell them what you're looking
for and they'll pass it onto someone for a quote. Or you can use an
online referral service to help as well. If he needs a contract
installer, don't pay more than $100 for a basic install and $10 a
contact over the basic. If you do, you're just getting ripped off.
They're just doing a simple hang and bang so $100 is fair.

A basic should include:
2 wireless doors
1 Wireless motion
Maybe 1 Fob, I know the Simon and Visonic have a package that has a fob
1 Transformer
1 Keypad
(wires ran in the wall if possible or stapled neatly down the wall and
hidden as best as possible)
A phone line connection, preferably with line siezure but in an
apartment, it may not be worth the trouble and extra expense.

One thing he should absolutely get is fire protection. Absolutely,
must have it, don't even think about not getting it. Tell him to get
one smoke detector that's tied in the system and make sure the system
can dial someone other than him (like his mom or someone).

Other options are the Ademco Lynx which is widely used where I live.
I'm not a huge fan of it but it's what they give me to put in. DSC
Envoy, it looks sweet but I've never used it. And that's about all, I
hope this helps.
 
M

McGinn

The Simon is a great wireless system. I absolutely love it but for
what your freind needs, this might not be enough. A better panel would
be the Visonic Powermax. The only reason it's better is because it can
dial up to 4 different numbers and then initiate a two-way voice
session. What this means is he can actually hear what's going on
inside the house and talk to the intruder/unexpected visitor/wife's
boyfreind/whatever and actually verify the alarm himself. If the Simon
offers this, I'm unaware. The Ver. 2 did not but Ver. 3 may, I haven't
used that panel much but I do like Simon. The best damn x-10
functionality out of any alarm panel on the market plus it's easy to
program. The visonic has x-10 features but they're no where near as
good or as versatile. I guess it depends on what you want to do with
the system.

I'd watch E-bay for one of these system. You shouldn't pay anymore
than $250 for a complete kit, if you do, you're paying too much. If
you need help programming either one, the vendors offer excellent
customer service but it's not usually for end-users. There is some
technical knowledge that he is going to need to put this thing in but I
imagine finding someone to help won't be too difficult if he runs into
problems. I know there's some companies out there that will program
the thing for you right over the phone for about $25 or you can find a
local wholesaler and try and find an installer whose looking for work
on the side. Call the distributor and tell them what you're looking
for and they'll pass it onto someone for a quote. Or you can use an
online referral service to help as well. If he needs a contract
installer, don't pay more than $100 for a basic install and $10 a
contact over the basic. If you do, you're just getting ripped off.
They're just doing a simple hang and bang so $100 is fair.

A basic should include:
2 wireless doors
1 Wireless motion
Maybe 1 Fob, I know the Simon and Visonic have a package that has a fob
1 Transformer
1 Keypad
(wires ran in the wall if possible or stapled neatly down the wall and
hidden as best as possible)
A phone line connection, preferably with line siezure but in an
apartment, it may not be worth the trouble and extra expense.






Mike

Where can I get Visionic Powermax and what is a phone line connection with
line seizure ?
 
F

Frank Olson

McGinn said:
Mike

Where can I get Visionic Powermax

You have to go to Israel. I understand there's a seat sale comin' up.
Don't forget to pack your harmonica.

and what is a phone line connection with
line seizure ?


That's when you're yakkin' on the phone with the cable company and they
come in and remove your lines.
 
A

Allan Waghalter

That was good, Frank!
<Chuckle....>


Frank Olson said:
You have to go to Israel. I understand there's a seat sale comin' up.
Don't forget to pack your harmonica.




That's when you're yakkin' on the phone with the cable company and they
come in and remove your lines.
 
F

Frank Olson

Allan said:
That was good, Frank!
<Chuckle....>


This is one of those guys that's obviously missing the almonds in his
"roca" (I'm not sayin' that toffee on it's own is a "bad" thing).

How're things down your end?
 
A

Allan Waghalter

We have had quite a large amount of rainfall in the past few days and
significantly more forecast for tonight and tomorrow. Some areas here
received as much as 12 inches of rain with most receiving about 3 inches in
just a few hours. We always flood here on the gulf coast, but it has been
very bad this time with water rising into the houses in South East Houston.
They just showed a house on TV that got three feet of water! We didn't get
too much in Southwest Houston, where I live, but with more rain forecast, I
don't know if we will be lucky enough to miss it again.
 
F

Frank Olson

Allan said:
We have had quite a large amount of rainfall in the past few days and
significantly more forecast for tonight and tomorrow. Some areas here
received as much as 12 inches of rain with most receiving about 3 inches in
just a few hours. We always flood here on the gulf coast, but it has been
very bad this time with water rising into the houses in South East Houston.
They just showed a house on TV that got three feet of water! We didn't get
too much in Southwest Houston, where I live, but with more rain forecast, I
don't know if we will be lucky enough to miss it again.


Until they fixed the storm sewers, Sherwood Park (suburb of Edmonton)
used to experience a lot of flooding. When a geyser of raw sewage
starts up in your basement toilet, I figure it's time to move out.
Back-flow preventers didn't help much. The pressure was so high it
would break the pipes. What a mess. In south Edmonton (where we used
to live) it never got to that point even though the rains there are
heavy at times.
 
B

Bob Worthy

We didn't get
too much in Southwest Houston, where I live,

Where abouts Allan? I had a house in Mission Bend for 13 years at Hwy 6 and
BelAir area. Finally sold it when the market got back to where it was 13
years earlier. Didn't make a penny but didn't loose one either. Had it
rented to the same people for 12 of those years. That is where I got
started in the security business in 1981.
but with more rain forecast, I
 
A

Allan Waghalter

I live essentially on South Braeswood between Fondren & Gessner. We got
more rain today and I got the pool filled for free. Not too much, however.
Still have another few days of the screwy weather pattern. I started in the
business in 1983! Wow, that seems like a life time ago.
 
M

McGinn

One LOW IQ SLAVE supporting ANOTHER SLAVE of AMERICAN GOVT PSYCHOPATHS.


Jeeez.
 
M

McGinn

Frank Olson said:
This is one of those guys that's obviously missing the almonds in his
"roca" (I'm not sayin' that toffee on it's own is a "bad" thing).

How're things down your end?




And you are ONE TYPICAL AMERICAN PUSSY who SHITS in ITS PANTS when IT HEARS
the words FBI, CIA and NSA.
 
M

McGinn

FUCKING LOW IQ MORONS,


This THREAD was started to get some answers for SETTING UP SECURITY.

This is NOT about YOUR FUCKING HOUSES, RAIN, WATER and YOUR PUBIC HAIR.

Take that SHIT to your PERSONAL EMAILS, PUSSIES !!!!!
 
R

Robert L Bass

... We got more rain today and I got the pool
filled for free. Not too much, however. Still
have another few days of the screwy weather
pattern.

We'd been having a semi-drought for months until the last week or so. It
figures! As soon as the pool company came and pumped out our pool and spa
it started to rain again. :^)
I started in the business in 1983! Wow, that
seems like a life time ago.

I've been in the business ~29 years now and it has been a lifetime.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
941-866-1100 Sales & Tech Support
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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M

Mark Leuck

My PC-illiterate buddy just moved into a new home, and is thinking
about installing a do-it-yourself alarm system. The easier to install
the better, but he wants to get a good quality one. His walls are
already finished, which might make a wired system harder to install.
Can someone recommend a particular brand or model so that I may point
him in the right direction?
Is wireless the way to go?
Thanks in advance.

Think LOXXON... you'll be glad you did
 
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