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New Age "wine enhancement"

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Richard Crowley

LOL, that's a great come-back. It kills me when "believers" diss real
science, but of course they have nothing of their own to show.
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On the other hand we have a rich history of "real science"
that seemed just as valid in its time, but in retrospect is
embarassing at best. And I wouldn't bet my life that 100%
of everything we think of as "real science" today will stand
the test of time and further research.
 
F

feebo

LOL..

"It is composed of a combination of organic (epoxy) and non-organic
non-magnetic metals (copper and others) placed in a matrix with various
crystals (12) also known for their specific vibrational frequencies. "

Which begs the question .... Are there any organic magnetic metals? or is
this "organic" in the sense that pesticides _were_ used to grow the copper?
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well... organic usually means having carbon in it's molecule - steel
has some and it is magnetic - my goodness! I think the OP has
something here ;o)
 
R

RichD

LOL, that's a great come-back. It kills me when "believers"
diss real science, but of course they have nothing of
their own to show.
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Dudes, it pains me to be the bearer of bad news,
but you are thick witted bastards.

No offense intended.
 
J

John Tserkezis

feebo said:
well... organic usually means having carbon in it's molecule - steel
has some and it is magnetic - my goodness! I think the OP has
something here ;o)
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Carbon steel is a mixture, it's not part of the molecule. So doesn't count.

That said, there are molecules that contain a metal atom, and a carbon
(among others) but the properties are changed so much it isn't the just the
sum of it's parts anymore. It's something different altogether.
 
B

Benj

I. Care said:
I think the OP needs to buy some shakti stones to enhance his audio
system while he drinks his treated wine. Then he will feel physically
lighter with an empty wallet.
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You beat me to it! I was about to say that this sounds VERY much like
the nonsense audiophiles spend thousands on to (allegedly) hear every
last nuance out of their systems.

They need to make these wine treaters in larger models so you can sit
a speaker cabinet in it! I'm sure for a mere $20 grand a piece of so,
I'd be able to hear things in my favorite recordings I never heard
before! :)

But it's all a little advanced for a person an my level. I'm still
trying to afford the special cables that have to always be installed
one way and come in different models according to the type of music
you play.
 
R

Ron Capik

Benj said:
< ...snip... >

But it's all a little advanced for a person an my level. I'm still
trying to afford the special cables that have to always be installed
one way and come in different models according to the type of music
you play.
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Gee, I thought the really good cables could be retrained. ;-)


Later...

Ron Capik <<< cynic in training >>>
--
 
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Ron Capik

Don said:
On 6/29/07 1:44 AM, in article [email protected], "Gareth


. Any of these

QP can NOT show that. It can only show that at least one model, of the
many, of the String *theories* shows that.
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....or, they may just be in the same place in their own little oddly folded
time space manifolds. ;-)


Later...

Ron Capik
--
 
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James Silverton

Stephen wrote on Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:00:17 -0500:

??>> I. Care wrote:
??>>>
??>>> I think the OP needs to buy some shakti stones to enhance
??>>> his audio system while he drinks his treated wine. Then
??>>> he will feel physically lighter with an empty wallet.
??>>
??>> But it's all a little advanced for a person an my level.
??>> I'm still trying to afford the special cables that have to
??>> always be installed one way and come in different models
??>> according to the type of music you play.

Cables do leak if you believe Comcast. A little while ago, I
came home to find some repairmen digging away in front of my
house. They said that the FAA had detected signal leakage from
their cable and they had to replace it!

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
 
J

Jose

Cables do leak if you believe Comcast. A little while ago, I came home to find some repairmen digging away in front of my house. They said that the FAA had detected signal leakage from their cable and they had to replace it!

Yes, cables will leak RF if they are defective. RF is such a high
frequency that capacitance becomes important. Speaker cables only carry
audio.

Jose
 
R

RichD

I'll humor you for the moment. That page
claims the product can improve the taste of
wine basically via osmosis, right through the glass
bottle without contacting the wine itself.
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oh then I guess light can't heat a bottle of liquid,
right through the glass!

I'd love to hear you explain how this can happen.
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You scientists, such skeptics!
Drink some grape, open your mind!
Extra points if you can explain what "resonance" has to
do with the process.
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waves resonate...light, sound... do you
know what resonate means?
 
J

Jose

Was that their claim? I would find it hard to believe too.

I bet he meant FCC. :)

Jose
 
J

James Silverton

Jose wrote on Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:52:30 GMT:

??>> Was that their claim? I would find it hard to believe
??>> too.

??>>> They said that the FAA had detected signal leakage from
??>>> their cable and they had to replace it!

J> I bet he meant FCC. :)

J> Jose

Whatever! I later saw the crew working their way along the whole
street using some sort of detector and doing a lot of digging
and cable work not just at my house. I can't say that I found
the explanation all that believable either but I did not notice
any change in the TV signal :) I've since gone to a fiber
optics connection so I don't suppose I'll ever really know what
they were up to.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
 
M

Mark Lipton

Ethan said:
As an electronic engineer, musician, and acoustician, I most certainly
do know what resonance is. But obviously it's just a buzz word to you.
Here's a clue - waves don't resonate. :->)
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Not to be too pedantic, Ethan, but -- given the wave-particle duality of
QM -- how else to characterize a phenomenon such as NMR?

Mark Lipton
 
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