Need help to build powerful electric magnet.

[daveem Dave M]

I discovered that I have a small metal splinter in my finger, that has
gone so deep, I am not able to remove it with a conventional tweezers
and needle, unless I do some deep cutting, and I didn't even notice it,
until I had my finger near a permanent magnet yesterday, and felt
something deep beneath my skin trying to move around, so yesterday I
constructed an electric magnet, in the hope that I could extract it with
a strong magnetic field, but apparently it was not strong enough, and
while I understand the basics of electromagnetism, I am not sure how one
can build an electric magnet, that has a strong enough field to do the
job, other then passing as large a current as possible, through many
turns of wire that are wrapped around a metal core, and any help would
be very appreciated.
Thanks, Dave

 

[John Popelish]

I discovered that I have a small metal splinter in my finger, that has
gone so deep, I am not able to remove it with a conventional tweezers
and needle, unless I do some deep cutting, and I didn't even notice it,
until I had my finger near a permanent magnet yesterday, and felt
something deep beneath my skin trying to move around, so yesterday I
constructed an electric magnet, in the hope that I could extract it with
a strong magnetic field, but apparently it was not strong enough, and
while I understand the basics of electromagnetism, I am not sure how one
can build an electric magnet, that has a strong enough field to do the
job, other then passing as large a current as possible, through many
turns of wire that are wrapped around a metal core, and any help would
be very appreciated.
Thanks, Dave

Forget about electromagnets. Take an old hard drive apart and
retrieve the super powerful permanent magnets form the heat
positioning motor. These are strong enough to be dangerous if you get
between them.

 

[CBarn24050]

you have no chance, what you need is a bottle of whisky and a friend with a
scapel.

 

[Clint Sharp]

I discovered that I have a small metal splinter in my finger, that has
gone so deep, I am not able to remove it with a conventional tweezers
and needle

It's not a metal splinter, it's an
alien/CIA/Illuminati/Government/Communist/<insert conspiracy theory of
choice here> mind-control/tracking/mind-control tracking device, that's
why you can't get it out.

 

[Sir Charles W. Shults III]

Place the finger between news2020's head and the secret guys' laser and
it will evaporate in seconds.

Cheers!

Chip Shults

 

[Bob Masta]

I discovered that I have a small metal splinter in my finger, that has
gone so deep, I am not able to remove it with a conventional tweezers
and needle, unless I do some deep cutting, and I didn't even notice it,
until I had my finger near a permanent magnet yesterday, and felt
something deep beneath my skin trying to move around, so yesterday I
constructed an electric magnet, in the hope that I could extract it with
a strong magnetic field, but apparently it was not strong enough, and
while I understand the basics of electromagnetism, I am not sure how one
can build an electric magnet, that has a strong enough field to do the
job, other then passing as large a current as possible, through many
turns of wire that are wrapped around a metal core, and any help would
be very appreciated.
Thanks, Dave

This may not be serious option, but note that the magnets
used in MRI scans are so powerful that the operators
have to worry about pulling out long-embedded metal
splinters. If you are getting a head scan, for example,
they take great precautions (X-rays, even) if there is
any chance there might be an old metal splinter in
your eye.

But unless you are friends with an MRI operator,
I'd recommend the tried and true scalpel approach.
Or just ignore it if it isn't causing any trouble... it
may work itself out over time, and if not it will probably
be dissolved by your system. (A little extra iron in
your blood!)


Bob Masta
dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom

D A Q A R T A
Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
www.daqarta.com

 

[Michael Black]

you have no chance, what you need is a bottle of whisky and a friend with a
scapel.

No, you put the finger between two powerful magnets, like out of a large
speaker or out of hard drives, and the pressure as the magnets attract
squeezes the metal out of the finger.

That's more viable than expecting a strong magnet to pull the metal out.

But I don't expect it to work. You're right, cutting is the only way.

Michael

 

[DarkMatter]

I discovered that I have a small metal splinter in my finger, that has
gone so deep, I am not able to remove it with a conventional tweezers
and needle, unless I do some deep cutting, and I didn't even notice it,
until I had my finger near a permanent magnet yesterday, and felt
something deep beneath my skin trying to move around, so yesterday I
constructed an electric magnet, in the hope that I could extract it with
a strong magnetic field, but apparently it was not strong enough, and
while I understand the basics of electromagnetism, I am not sure how one
can build an electric magnet, that has a strong enough field to do the
job, other then passing as large a current as possible, through many
turns of wire that are wrapped around a metal core, and any help would
be very appreciated.
Thanks, Dave

Lance the area, and remove the splinter with the weaker magnet.
There is no magnet that will pull it back through the skin.

Loose the WebTV... very bad ISP... Just advice..

 

[DarkMatter]

It's not a metal splinter, it's an
alien/CIA/Illuminati/Government/Communist/<insert conspiracy theory of
choice here> mind-control/tracking/mind-control tracking device, that's
why you can't get it out.

Clint Sharp

Not too sharp there, Clint.

 

[DarkMatter]

Place the finger between news2020's head and the secret guys' laser and
it will evaporate in seconds.

Cheers!

Chip Shults

Ther was actually a smidgeon of humor there.

 

[MG]

I discovered that I have a small metal splinter in my finger, that has
gone so deep, I am not able to remove it with a conventional tweezers
and needle, unless I do some deep cutting, and I didn't even notice it,
until I had my finger near a permanent magnet yesterday, and felt
something deep beneath my skin trying to move around, so yesterday I
constructed an electric magnet, in the hope that I could extract it with
a strong magnetic field, but apparently it was not strong enough, and
while I understand the basics of electromagnetism, I am not sure how one
can build an electric magnet, that has a strong enough field to do the
job, other then passing as large a current as possible, through many
turns of wire that are wrapped around a metal core, and any help would
be very appreciated.
Thanks, Dave

Dave, humur apart, some sensible points have been made on other posts. I
have one more comment to offer, pulling the sliver out with one application
may not work, short of the powerful MRI magnets, but you may let TIME work
for you if you apply whaterver contraptions of permanent magnets to your
fingers before go to bed each night, The sliver will be under constant pull
and since the body is constantly rebuilding itself the sliver will slowly
reach the skin, at that point you will notice and take out the old exacto
knife. It may take 3 or 6 month though. Let us know on this NG before you
publish this new low intrusion surgical technique on some medical NG.
Chuckles...

MG

 

[Don Klipstein]

It is not easy to make an electromagnet more powerful than rare earth
magnets. I would advise some of those smaller rare earth magnets that get
removed from or made for some headphones or some hard drives in the past
couple decades. Smaller is probbly better - the pull on a piece of
magnetic material is greater when you increase the extent to which the
magnetic field is stronger or more direct on one end of the particle than
on the other end.

Dave, humur apart, some sensible points have been made on other posts. I
have one more comment to offer, pulling the sliver out with one application
may not work, short of the powerful MRI magnets, but you may let TIME work
for you if you apply whaterver contraptions of permanent magnets to your
fingers before go to bed each night, The sliver will be under constant pull
and since the body is constantly rebuilding itself the sliver will slowly
reach the skin, at that point you will notice and take out the old exacto
knife. It may take 3 or 6 month though. Let us know on this NG before you
publish this new low intrusion surgical technique on some medical NG.

I was under the impression that if a foreign object was below the
epidermis, there is not much tendency for it to move outward - especially
if not in the way of a hair follicle.

If the skin healed over the offending particle and there is no infection
(and you go a week or two with unbroken skin and no infection), then I
suspect there is no harm in leaving the particle in place. The particle
could be there 10 or 20 years later with no harm.

But if the object is in a fingertip, then I would want to cut it out.
Fingertips heal well.

- Don Klipstein ([email protected])