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Multi-dedent pot movement called generically?

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N_Cook

Warwick amps like to use large heavy brass knobs under mirror finish. They
must have had problems with biased resonance/ratcheting and controls
turning, as they have used domestic stereo pots with that
semi-locking/detenting for vol and gain, although only one track used in
each
 
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Cydrome Leader

N_Cook said:
Warwick amps like to use large heavy brass knobs under mirror finish. They
must have had problems with biased resonance/ratcheting and controls
turning, as they have used domestic stereo pots with that
semi-locking/detenting for vol and gain, although only one track used in
each

clicky volume pot is all I've heard for them. The last one I saw was in an
early 1980s Concept receiver. It was made by Alps and the replacement cost
was very high.
 
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N_Cook

Cydrome Leader said:
clicky volume pot is all I've heard for them. The last one I saw was in an
early 1980s Concept receiver. It was made by Alps and the replacement cost
was very high.


I've just converted a standard mono sub-min Alpha pot to a "clicky" dedent
form ,for a Warwick. The other rotary controls in there have smaller metal
knobs so there are normal mono pots on those. Before writing up another tips
note, I was after a generic name for them

I thought it was dedent as it involved dents , into which a sprung loaded
ball dropped into
 
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N_Cook

Arfa Daily said:
Surely, the word is detent with a "t", isn't it ?

Arfa


Convention does seem to be detent, I always thought it involved dents so
dedent. So where does this word detent come from , via detend? as in
detending to rotate or tent as in tenterhooks for suspending hides for
scraping to parchement etc
 
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William Sommerwerck

Convention does seem to be detent, I always thought it involved
dents so dedent. So where does this word detent come from,
via detend? As in detending to rotate or tent as in tenterhooks
for suspending hides for scraping to parchement etc

It is absolutely trivial to look this up on line. "Detent" comes from an Old
French word meaning "to release", which is derived from a Latin word meaning
"to stretch".

There are no such English words as "dedend" or "dedent".
 
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William Sommerwerck

Clicky volume pot is all I've heard for them. The last one
I saw was in an early 1980s Concept receiver. It was
made by Alps and the replacement cost was very high.

The fancy form of such a device is a "stepped attenuator", which switches
resistors in and out to produce the desired attenuation. My Lux 5C50 preamp
uses one made by Alps. "The Audio Amateur" has published articles on
designing stepped attenuators.

The other type is a plain-old pot with a detented knob. These used to be
common on car stereos.
 
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Spehro Pefhany

It is absolutely trivial to look this up on line. "Detent" comes from an Old
French word meaning "to release", which is derived from a Latin word meaning
"to stretch".

See "détente" (a sudden release of pressure), which was directly
borrowed into English (minus the accent) to describe Soviet-American
cold war negotiations . The meanings are very similar.

I suppose English could use an antonym for that word to apply to
current behavior patterns. Retente? It means something different in
French, but..


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Cydrome Leader

N_Cook said:
I've just converted a standard mono sub-min Alpha pot to a "clicky" dedent
form ,for a Warwick. The other rotary controls in there have smaller metal
knobs so there are normal mono pots on those. Before writing up another tips
note, I was after a generic name for them

I thought it was dedent as it involved dents , into which a sprung loaded
ball dropped into

that's what the Alps ones I saw were. Those old stereos were heavy and had
large producing knobs, so it wasn't too hard to break off the shaft of the
pots where the slot and splines were cut.

new volume knobs really feel crappy, like plastic slathered in grease,
which they are. Tuning knobs with the giant flywheel were great.
 
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gregz

William Sommerwerck said:
The fancy form of such a device is a "stepped attenuator", which switches
resistors in and out to produce the desired attenuation. My Lux 5C50 preamp
uses one made by Alps. "The Audio Amateur" has published articles on
designing stepped attenuators.

The other type is a plain-old pot with a detented knob. These used to be
common on car stereos.

I have an hitachi preamplifier, which has steps, and I think it uses carbon
traces on boards to form the resistance, as resistors. From what I have
seen looking in. There are discrete attenuation steps, not gradual.

Greg
 
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Franc Zabkar

There are no such English words as "dedend" or "dedent".

I beg to differ.

dedent
— v.tr.

to remove a depression in a surface made by pressure or a blow:
"The panelbeater dedented my door".

:)

- Franc Zabkar
 
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N_Cook

Franc Zabkar said:
I beg to differ.

dedent
- v.tr.

to remove a depression in a surface made by pressure or a blow:
"The panelbeater dedented my door".

:)

- Franc Zabkar

I actually dedented a speaker cone yesterday

Just as well I found a work around for making clicky pots as I could only
find single detent/dedent pots (balance type) available in the UK.
It must have seriously pissed-off musos when a gain or vol pot would turn of
its own
accord, due to biased resonance with those 4 ounce knobs , from built-in
speaker vibration
 
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William Sommerwerck

There are no such English words as "dedend" or "dedent".
I beg to differ.
dedent -- v.tr.
to remove a depression in a surface made by pressure or a blow:
"The panelbeater dedented my door".

Or... "The Gypsy offered to dedent my car's fender, but only made things
worse." (This actually happened. A policeman stepped in and chased him off.)
 
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