More efficient electric motor invention

[Sylvia Else]

Or how to waste a huge amount of time and effort trying to invent
something when you don't understand the physical principles involved.

http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1201795.htm

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

The entire web site is loopy... had you tried to vote
that was a hoot.

Phil Scott

Can't say I've been sufficiently motivated. I just had the misfortune to
sit through that segment on TV. It was quite embarrassing actually. The
guy was claiming he could double the efficiency of electric motors. The
fact that they're already more than 50% efficient anyway didn't phase
him at all.

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

a pipe ran between the large drum and the shed connected to
the bunsen burner... he showed me in great detail how NO gas
line or other piping was connected to the drum...so ....NO
natural gas.

Then I noticed an empty sack of calcium carbide on the
ground.... thats when he puffed up and said all you had to do
was put the stuff in the drum and add water.... presto...you
could go in and lite yer burner.... which I passed.... seeing
as how I didnt think the shed was built to stop shrapnel.

He was probably a friend of a friend of one of mine. This guy had this
revolutionary approach to welding gasses, which was to mix the oxygen
with the inflamable gas in ONE tank. This allowed for a very high
temperature at the nozzle, apparently.

Sylvia.

 

[PCK]

In describing other motors they listed a 'reluctance motor'...
his notion apparently is that AC current only uses half of the
sine wave, so by building his own rectifier and by using 'flat
wire'...they could get DC and use ALL of the sine wave.....
there has been no testing yet however....they will have that
'proffessionally' done.

not defending this guy but phil go back and read again
many conclusions have been jumped
this idea is not new

 

[daestrom]

He is lucky to be alive as you know... it wouldnt increase
the flame temperature however, as in either case you are
simply oxidizing acytlene at atmospheric pressures...if you
ever began to oxidize it fully in the torch tip, at slightly
higher pressures and temperatures the tip would melt within
seconds... if you ever oxidize it at the regulator you get to
pick brass shrapnel out of your ass. If it ever oxidizes in
the tank which it will spontaneiously over a thousand psig
depending on the gas mix... the death scene clean up crew gets
to try and swabb tiny bits of body fragments off of the walls.

There's a *reason* why acetylene cylinders are filled with toulene and
diamatceous earth. To keep the gas from spontaneously exploding while still
in the cylinder. Saw the results of a guy carrying an oxy-acetylene rig in
his truck to a work site and using it while still in the back of his truck
(laying down on it's side!!!). BOOM!!!

daestrom

 

[daestrom]

I bought a mini oxy act rig at a victor welding supply last
year (one of those 250 dollar outfits with the small acty
tank)...and asked for a rose bud tip for it. (many clustered
orifices for real fast heating)

that tip drew actylene faster from the tank that it could
handle without putting acetone through the regulator and
handle etc. ...

Ah, acetone. You're right, I said touluene earlier.

Something else to watch for. Many people in
the business these days dont even think about such things

taking the handle apart later the seals were all burnt out.

Yeah, most folks don't understand that. Acetylene regulators are marked in
RED above ~15 psi because the gas will become dangerous. But they reason
that the pressure in the tank is higher than that so what the f___. But the
tank has that other stuff in there to keep the acetylene from going boom.
This is one case where if you let out the 'magic' (acetone), then it *will*
go up in smoke ;-)

If acetylene cylinder is laid down for any reason, it's important to stand
it upright and let it stand for several hours before using.

daestrom

 

[daestrom]

Very interesting... I hadnt understood those factors at
all. I still cant fathom that the acytylene would blow
though.. in any case of mission acetone, since there is no
oxygen present... unless you run the oxy regulator at 20
psig... and the acytlene regulator set say at 7 lbs leaks
backwards allowing oxygen onto the acty tank...

Do you know the details and why etc on this range of
issues? I only have these loose conclusions.

Google is your friend.... ;-)

http://www.weldingsupply.net/acetylen.htm

"Unless dissolved in a solvent, acetylene will dissociate at pressures above
15 psig and form lamp black and hydrogen. Heat is generated with
dissociation, which in turn, produces a danger of explosion."

I may be a bit paranoid about the "several hours", but I haven't had any
blow up in my face The key is to let the acetone in the neck and valve
find its way back down into the 'porous material'. A small bubble of gas
right at the valve on top of the cylinder will dissociate and not generate
enough heat to be a problem. But if you stand it up and open the valve
right away, you can 'spit' out some acetone. Repeatedly, and you develop a
gas bubble/space in the cylinder, too much acetone leak out and bad news.

And of course, if used while laying down, then a fair amount of acetone
comes out right away, leaving a sizable bubble of acetylene to form inside
the cylinder, under more than 15 psig of pressure.

daestrom