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sel1

Just curious...

Has anyone checked out using low voltage white LEDs for lighting in a boat?
Is this economically (or otherwise)feasible? I understand that they draw
very low voltage/current making them real easy on batteries while providing
lots of light.
 
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Doug Dotson

West Marine has a pretty good selection of LED lights.

Doug
s/v Callista
 
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Terry Spragg

Doug said:
West Marine has a pretty good selection of LED lights.

Doug
s/v Callista

The cheapest source for white LEDs at present seems to be salvage
from solar yard lights on sale.

OEMs are buying them all up in bulk, I guess, I have not yet seen
any at radio shack, or even my parts wholesaler catalogues.

Sell your tungsten stocks, solid state lights are here. Soon, they
will be a few cents each and plentiful.

Each LED consumes about 80 milliamps at 1.6 volts or so. They may
be strung in series so that 5 would require 8.1 volts or so to
ignite, and require a specific resistor in series in the range of a
couple hundreds of ohms to protect the devices from overcurrent, as
they cannot protect themselves or control current in the way we
usually think with ohm's law, as they have conductive
characteristics quite different from resistors, incandescent or
otherwise. More like a gas discharge tube, really. You could mix and
match red, green and blue to approximate white light. They can be
dimmed easily using a rheostat. They are polarised, so require
connection in the right direction, anode to positive. Reverse
connection means they just don't conduct or light up unless exposed
to excessive voltage, in which case they melt and fuse to become an
open circuit. They can be driven from an A.C. source, conducting
like rectifiers.

Yes, they are much more efficient than regular lamps, consuming
about 1/10 the power for equivalent light output, but, at the
present state of the art, high intensity leds are not really very
bright. For low lighting levels, especially low level red night
lights, they are ideal.

Terry K
 
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Steve Alexanderson

So lumens per watt, are they more or less efficient than fluorescents,
including losses in resistors and ballasts?
 
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TomS

First: My opinion is that regular "white" LEDs are really too blue to use as
the only overhead lighting.
Did a comparison on "warm white" LEDs from Luxeon and halogen light bulbs
from Osram.
There are no warm white leds giving more lumens/watt than the halogen light,
at the best they are equal.
On the other hand a "warm white" LED is probably 50 times more expensive
than the halogen.
And this did not take into account that one needs a resistor in series or
some type of switching supply.
And flourecent lights are much more efficien than halogens.

There are no CE marked LED navigation lights for boats larger than 12m,
wonder why? :)

Regs/TomS

"Steve Alexanderson"
 
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Mobey Dick

Jan Akalla said:
I know absolutely nothing about CE marking, but the products from this
company http://www.lopolight.com/ seems to have some kind of approval from
the Danish Maritime Authority
http://www.cordland.se/images/Lopolight DMA type approval.pdf.
According to the homepage of the swedish distributor, this would mean
that
it's approved within EU. Part of the approval speaks about ship less than
50
meters.

I need to replace my navigation lights for a 37 sailboat, and the
Lopolight
ones look nice. Are there any other manufactureres I should look at?

Thanks,

Jan

I suspect it costs more than your boat.....
 
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sel1

Like most postings, it draws varying opinions, but gets you thinking. At the
risk of asking a dumb question, you refer to "white LED Lamps (not LED's)
are a different beast." What do you mean by LED Lamps. If they are a
different beast, what are they?
 
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Doug Dotson

I've seen quite a number of White LED driver chips on the market.
Apparently they are boost converters that output 32 volts to drive
2 to 8 LEDs from a 3.3 to 5.5V supply. Apparently the flash in my
cellphone camera is a white LED.

Doug
s/v Callista
 
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