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How do I program zones on Ademco Vista 10SE?

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Samuel Rutherford

I have an Ademco Vista 10SE system.

I want to change Zone 6 to a "perimeter" zone type.

Here's exactly what I've done so far-

Hit:

*20 (enter installer code) + 8 + 0

*56 (zone programming)

At this point I get lost as the system doesn't respond the way the
manual says it's supposed to. I suppose I have the key sequence wrong
or something similar.

Could someone please tell me the exact key sequence I'm to enter (from
start to finish) to change Zone 6 to a Perimeter zone type?

Also, what are the exact steps to review an existing zone?

My keypad is either a 6127 or a 6128 (fixed word keypads)....not an
alpha keypad

Thanks.
 
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Crash Gordon

You need a programming keypad an old 6139 or a newer 6160 to see what you
are doing.
 
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Samuel Rutherford

You need a programming keypad an old 6139 or a newer 6160 to see what you
are doing.


Jim helped me out. Here's what to do;

How to program Zones in a Vista 10SE

1. Enter Installer Code + 800
1a. Should see 20 on keypad
2. Hit *56 (zone programming range)
3. Hit *
4. Should see 01 (meaning zone 1)
5. Hit ***
6. Should see 10
7. Hit ***
8. Should see 02 (meaning zone 2)

At this point exit Zone programming by doing the following; (don't
ask "why"....I'll explain later)

Hit 00*
Hit *99

You are now back at the "Ready" light and your system is ready to arm
or be left alone.


(You can continue the procedure above for all zones repeating steps 5
through 8 which will take you through each zone. Sometimes, however,
you will see various Zone Type codes such as 03 (perimeter) after you
see a zone number.) To get out of the programming you must reach a
Zone number and then hit 00* and then *99

Now, here's the catch; after doing all of the above and reviewing the
Zones....I honestly don't know how to change each Zone's Zone Type. I
did it back dumb effort on one of my zones and was successful.
 
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Frank Olson

Samuel said:
Now, here's the catch; after doing all of the above and reviewing the
Zones....I honestly don't know how to change each Zone's Zone Type. I
did it back dumb effort on one of my zones and was successful.


It helps if you have the proper keypad for programming and to RTFM.
Programming an Ademco DOES take some rocket science.
 
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Crash Gordon

YES...I know how to do it the trick way...been in the business for years.
But trust me it's safer/easier to do it with the proper keypad so you can
see what you are doing.



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**Crash Gordon**
 
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Samuel Rutherford

Yes, I have the manuals for my system. They do not mention
programming using the single line keypad but only mention programming
using the alpha key pad.
 
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Bob

Samuel said:
Yes, I have the manuals for my system. They do not mention
programming using the single line keypad but only mention programming
using the alpha key pad.

if you're going to just change 1 thing u can do it. but if u have a lot
to program by all means use the alpha.
 
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Samuel Rutherford

if you're going to just change 1 thing u can do it. but if u have a lot
to program by all means use the alpha.

Great.....now how do you do it?
 
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Crash Gordon

toldja...you need a 6139 or 6160 keypad.

single line programming (I call it "by the beep") is kinda a hack, it's not
really how you are supposed to program the zones.

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**Crash Gordon**
 
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Samuel Rutherford

Alright, alright.

The bottom line is you guys don't know how to do it.

It can be done- I saw the installer setup our entire system with the
single line keypad.

Anyone have a 6139 keypad for sale that works?
 
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Frank Olson

Samuel said:
Alright, alright.

The bottom line is you guys don't know how to do it.

It can be done- I saw the installer setup our entire system with the
single line keypad.

Anyone have a 6139 keypad for sale that works?


Yes, it can be done. You have to be completely familiar with Ademco
programming for it to work. If you've installed dozens of them, you'd
be able to work with the keypad responses to understand where you are in
programming. I've done it "in a pinch", but not being able to verify
what you've entered is a bit "un-nerving" (thank goodness for
downloading software). As for "talking someone through it"
(particularly someone that's not even in the trade), I wouldn't even
attempt it (and I doubt many of the other professionals that post here
would either).
 
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Crash Gordon

Then you better have your system checked over, because that method of
programming is so prone to errors it aint funny.

I've been programming these things for 20+ years and in the few instances I
had to program by the the beep, I've ALWAYS checked my programming of that
panel with Compass immediately upon return to the office.

You can probably find a 6139 or 6160 on eBay.

If this is your only system you're doing, why not just buy the 6160 and
hang it.
 
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Bob

Samuel said:
Great.....now how do you do it?

I did it once and went out and bought a apha. I don't do ademco. but I
still went out and bought one. thats how bad I didnt want to have to
ever do that again!
 
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Bob

Samuel said:
Alright, alright.

The bottom line is you guys don't know how to do it.

It can be done- I saw the installer setup our entire system with the
single line keypad.

sounds like rocket science, musta been RLB!
 
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JoeRaisin

Samuel said:
Alright, alright.

The bottom line is you guys don't know how to do it.

It can be done- I saw the installer setup our entire system with the
single line keypad.

Anyone have a 6139 keypad for sale that works?

And you can bet it wasn't his first time programming.

Like most of the others here, I've done it - in a pinch - but like them,
I had it verified at the earliest opportunity.

Main programming is pretty easy with the "fixed word" keypad but when
you get into menus and sub-menus it is crazy easy to get lost without
the feedback.

Luckily, when setting up a system the only menu driven programming you
generally have to do is zone programming. One of our techs used to work
for a company that that had pre-programmed zones. All you had to do tie
down the device wires to the proper zones and all you had to program
were the basics.

Could be that's how your other company did it.

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_npmv=3&_trksid=m38&_nkw=ademco 6139&_nd1=See-All-Categories
 
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