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How do I design a small generator that gets its power from humanmotion , ie stationary bike ??

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katrina

I would like to hook up a stationary bike to a small generator and
provide my own electricity for a television set using my own 2 legs.
Any ideas ? Thanks [email protected]
 
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MooseFET

I would like to hook up a stationary bike to a small generator and
provide my own electricity for a television set using my own 2 legs.
Any ideas ?  Thanks   [email protected]

Get a very low powered TV. It takes a lot of work to make 200W. A
good upper limit unless you are a world class cyclist would be about
100W.

You want your feet going at 60 or so RPM. The shaft of the generator
needs to be going at something like 1000 RPM.
 
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Glenn Gundlach

I would like to hook up a stationary bike to a small generator and
provide my own electricity for a television set using my own 2 legs.
Any ideas ?  Thanks   [email protected]

Back when I was a kid, the couple watts from a block generator was
annoying. I can't imagine trying to power any but the lowest power TV
- and then not for long.

 
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Martin Brown

Powering a TV set would exhaust you pretty fast. I've done it.

A small one wouldn't be too bad. Charging a 12v battery and running
the TV indirectly from that might be a better bet. You are not going
to have much fun watching TV whilst pedalling hard just to keep the
thing running.

This sort of static bike driving a car alternator with an invertor to
power mains light bulbs and that can be switched between filament load
and CFL makes a very good demo of how much energy is wasted by leaving
lights on unnecessarily. How hard it is to move the pedals
demonstrates the difference between generating 20W and 100W from a
human very effectively.

Regards,
Martin Brown
 
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James Arthur

John said:
Powering a TV set would exhaust you pretty fast. I've done it.

John

Ken has it right--get one of those tiny LCD TVs--they
only draw a watt or two.

James Arthur
 
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Rich Grise

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:39:29 -0800 (PST), katrina


Powering a TV set would exhaust you pretty fast. I've done it.

They had some of these at the Science Museum in St. Paul, MN, with TVs.
As I remember, you had to pedal pretty fast to make it go. I once bought
a 5" TV for $5.00 at a pawn shop - it took 8X "C" cells, which lasted
about three hours per set, and it came with a wall wart.

You could go to the local bike shop and see what they have in the way
of generators, but you might need something a little more beefy than
that - you might have to do some experiments.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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Paul G.

I would like to hook up a stationary bike to a small generator and
provide my own electricity for a television set using my own 2 legs.
Any ideas ? Thanks [email protected]

I did something like this about 15 years ago. Two of us made a frame
to allow any 10-speed to act as a generator/exercise machine. The back
wheel ran a heavy steel cylinder which was coupled by a pulley belt to
an automobile alternator. Our alternator was loaded down by a
progammable load to simulate different terrain. If I remember
correctly, someone in good shape could run 1/4 horsepower (about 200W)
for 15-30 minutes. The frame and electrical apparatus had to be
designed to handle the resulting deluge of sweat!
Our ultimate goal was to make the system work with two coupled
cylinders, so that you didn't need to attach the bike, you could ride
it just a regular bike.... the cylinders had the rotational inertia to
give a smooth ride, and since both wheels of the bike were running at
normal speeds, balance was normal. It allowed you to use your own
favourite bike as a "stationary" exercise machine.
Electrically, the thing was very simple. Just hook up your load to
the 12v output terminals! We never tried converting it to AC line
voltages, but I'm sure those converters are pretty common and cheap!
I would imagine that this would be a pretty easy technique to
generate power in places that are way off the grid, and have a bicycle
and car parts handy.

-Paul G.
 
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Eeyore

katrina said:
I would like to hook up a stationary bike to a small generator and
provide my own electricity for a television set using my own 2 legs.
Any ideas ?

Yes, you won't make enough power so forget this unbelievably STUPID
idea.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Martin said:
A small one wouldn't be too bad. Charging a 12v battery and running
the TV indirectly from that might be a better bet. You are not going
to have much fun watching TV whilst pedalling hard just to keep the
thing running.

This sort of static bike driving a car alternator with an invertor to
power mains light bulbs and that can be switched between filament load
and CFL makes a very good demo of how much energy is wasted by leaving
lights on unnecessarily. How hard it is to move the pedals
demonstrates the difference between generating 20W and 100W from a
human very effectively.

Except a 20W CFL isn't as bright as a 100W GLS bulb. 25-30W more like.

Graham
 
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Get a very low powered TV. It takes a lot of work to make 200W. A
good upper limit unless you are a world class cyclist would be about
100W.

You want your feet going at 60 or so RPM. The shaft of the generator
needs to be going at something like 1000 RPM.

A world class cyclist can put out ~300 watts for an hour or two. A
very good weekend cyclist about 100 watts for 2-3 hours.

A 17" LCD display eats about 40 watts. 17" CRT, 140-300 watts.

One way around the RPM problem would be to use a high voltage DC motor
for the generator. The ones in exercise machines like treadmills are
~3 hp, turn 3,000-4,000 RPM at 130 VDC input. You should be able to
get 12 out with very low RPM - but it would need some speed increase
from the pedal rpm but that may be within the range of a standard
weighted flywheel exercise bike or 10 speed.

There were some inexpensive $20 treadmill motors around surplus but
that seems to have dried up. I found a couple for $90-$100. 3hp/3.5
hp, 4,100/3,460 RPM, 130 VDC, 22/25 amps 25/33 lbs. surpluscenter.com

Looks easily doable, depending on how much money you want to spend.
 
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