How can one flash the A8N32-SLI BIOS chip ?

[Skybuck]

Hello,

I am more the kind of "do it yourself" type when it comes to
computers

Flashing the (presumably) dead BIOS chip myself seems interesting.

So far I have learned of two options:

1. Hot swapping the bios. (weir/unreliable and dangerous)

2. Use an external device.

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*** Option 1 ***:
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I read about "hot swapping" the bios, but that seems way to dangerous.

And it's also weird I don't understand it, to help me understand it a
little bit I need a history lesson and more :

Were interrupts handled by CPU or BIOS back in the old days ?

Nowadays some say the BIOS is loaded into RAM (shadowed), does that
mean the CPU actually executes the BIOS code ?

Some say hot swapping works because of just that ! Since the BIOS is
in RAM, the bios chip can be removed while the computer is ON !

And it will even continue functioning ?!?

Amazing... I never tried it... especially not with my motherboard...
anybody tried it ?

Is it really true ??? How can that be ??? Does the CPU execute the
bios code ???

Maybe the BIOS code is just like another piece of software/program/DLL
library that gets sorta linked to programs... how all this works ???
hmm kinda strange...

Whatever the case may be, it's not recommended by others and I can
sure understand why

So that leads to option 2

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*** Option 2 ***:
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Use a device.

For that I have following questions:

What kind of chip is it ?

What kind of devices are available ?

How much do these devices cost ?

What's the cheapest device ?

How much does such a bios chip cost ?

Where can I order one ?

Thanks for any answers.

I am totaly newb to this any help and/or info is greatly appreciated

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Skybuck]

Also,

I like the idea of replacing the "flashable bios chip" with a "rom
bios chip" if possible.

To prevent any cracks/hacks/viruses/worms/etc from fucking up my
computer.

Can I also make my own rom bios chip ?

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Jaap Knasterhuis]

I am totaly newb to this

Bye,
Skybuck.

Dat hoef je niet meer te vermelden, want dat is intussen wel
duidelijk.
Domme Limbo!

JK

 

[d.schatkamer]

Dat hoef je niet meer te vermelden, want dat is intussen wel
duidelijk.
Domme Limbo!

Don't feed the troll ;-)

 

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[Skybuck]

This is pretty technical information.

So I have sent an e-mail to [email protected] asking for more information
about the bios chip.

Like chip model, type, price, devices, device prices, and if they sell
it

Could be interesting...

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Dat hoef je niet meer te vermelden, want dat is intussen wel
duidelijk.
Domme Limbo!

JK

Put on nothing but a long raincoat, sneak up on the chip and flash
it. Now, was that so hard?


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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Skybuck]

Put on nothing but a long raincoat, sneak up on the chip and flash

it. Now, was that so hard?

Good joke ! =D

I wish it worked

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Skybuck]

Don't feed the troll ;-)

Leuk spel:

Wie is de troll ?

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[mpm]

Hey Skybuck,

I think I know what's wrong with your motherboard...
http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=ISI/ISI106/DECDE038.JPG


I think Mike or Graham mentioned earlier this is really not the right
forum for the types of questions you ask. I would add that it's not
the right place to seek mental health assistance either.

Seriously, do you think any of us here give a damn about your broken
motherboard theories at this point? Go get some electronics
troubleshooting skills, or some lithium, or a new computer, or
whatever. Just get off S.E.D.

 

[John Doe]

Hello,

I am more the kind of "do it yourself" type when it comes to
computers

You're also a habitual cross posting troll.

 

[[email protected]]

You're also a habitual cross posting troll.




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Nonsense !

Tell it to the dead BIOS cause the face ain't listening

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[JackShephard]

Hello,

I am more the kind of "do it yourself" type when it comes to
computers

No, you're a total retard when it comes to computers.

Flashing the (presumably) dead BIOS chip myself seems interesting.

You need a chip burner, and you need the chip OUT of the motherboard.

So far I have learned of two options:

1. Hot swapping the bios. (weir/unreliable and dangerous)

I think that you don't even know what the term "hot swapping" means.

2. Use an external device.

You cannot program it while it is IN the MOBO with an "external
device".

There are bootable CDs with BIOS fixer apps built into them for your
MOBO, idiot.

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*** Option 1 ***:
******************

I read about "hot swapping" the bios, but that seems way to dangerous.

You are in the dark. You tackling any task in electronics is a joke.

And it's also weird I don't understand it, to help me understand it a
little bit I need a history lesson and more :

A LOT more. You need to take basic algebra, advanced algebra, trig,
and THEN you need a basic electronics course, then some advanced
electronics, and I think that you STILL wouldn't get it, because you lack
the aptitude for electronics.

Were interrupts handled by CPU or BIOS back in the old days ?

You're lost.

Nowadays some say the BIOS is loaded into RAM (shadowed), does that
mean the CPU actually executes the BIOS code ?

You're completely lost.

Some say hot swapping works because of just that ! Since the BIOS is
in RAM, the bios chip can be removed while the computer is ON !

You are what they call on Saturday Night Live... and the film "All of
Me"... a "big dope".

And it will even continue functioning ?!?

Big dope.

Amazing... I never tried it... especially not with my motherboard...
anybody tried it ?

Didn't you already fry your motherboard?

Is it really true ???

Are you really human?

How can that be ???

How can a human be so stupid?

Does the CPU execute the
bios code ???

It is an acronym for Central Processing Unit.

Maybe the BIOS code is just like another piece of software/program/DLL
library that gets sorta linked to programs... how all this works ???
hmm kinda strange...

Yes, you are more than "kinda strange", boy.

Whatever the case may be, it's not recommended by others and I can
sure understand why

What others have recommended to you is that you cease posting this CRAP
that you keep posting.

So that leads to option 2

You jumping off a tall bridge?

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*** Option 2 ***:
******************

Use a device.

OK... Use a tall building instead.

For that I have following questions:

What kind of chip is it ?

One that is far beyond you capacity to understand.

What kind of devices are available ?

You could use a big butcher knife and do it Japanese suicide style.

How much do these devices cost ?

pretty cheap... Try the dollar store.

What's the cheapest device ?

Try the dollar store. They have real cheap knives.

How much does such a bios chip cost ?

One fourth to one half the price of the MOBO.

Where can I order one ?

If you know the brand, GOOGLE IT, idiot.

Thanks for any answers.

Take this tripe and shove it.

I am totaly newb to this any help and/or info is greatly appreciated

Bullshit. You pulled this same tired CRAP last year.

Bye,

Please... make that a true remark of exodus.

 

[Skybuck]

Hey Skybuck,

I think I know what's wrong with your motherboard...http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=ISI/ISI106/DECDE038.JPG

I think Mike or Graham mentioned earlier this is really not the right
forum for the types of questions you ask. I would add that it's not
the right place to seek mental health assistance either.

Seriously, do you think any of us here give a damn about your broken
motherboard theories at this point? Go get some electronics
troubleshooting skills, or some lithium, or a new computer, or
whatever. Just get off S.E.D.

Has it ever occured to you that this is a public newgroup which
millions of people could read ?

Has it ever occured to you that by helping me you could help millions
of others ?

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Skybuck]

Please get off usenet dude.

I seek serious answers to my questions.

Not this garbished.

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Skybuck]

Only fools responding so to answer my own questions:

The BIOS chip for the motherboard is probably a:

EEPROM

Which means I would need an:

EEPROM chip burner.

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Skybuck]

A sponspored link came up in google (only once though) fortunately it
was in the history:

http://www.advin.com/chip-programmer.htm#TAG_PILOT_SERIES

This device seems to match the dimensions of the bios chip.

Bit expensive though

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Marcel Overweel]

berichtOn Mon, 04 Jun

Leuk spel:

Wie is de troll ?

Bye,
Skybuck.

kijk eens in de spiegel randdebiel

 

[Skybuck]

Note to myself:

Ignore assholes complaining about "trolling, crossposting, etc".

Asus probably bunch of retards.

The real solution is to include the NVIDIA newsgroup.

The chipset on the Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard was designed by
NVIDIA.

Therefore the NVIDIA newsgroup is the correct place for these
messages.

NVIDIA newsgroup added to cross postings

Now the real search for some good information can be begin by
searching for NFORCE 4 chipset documents

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Martijn van Buul]

Skybuck ([email protected]) schreef:

Has it ever occured to you that this is a public newgroup which
millions of people could read ?

Has this ever occured to *you*, for that matter?

Has it ever occured to you that by helping me you could help millions
of others ?

You're beyond help.