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Michelle P

Hi,
I a starting to design my next house. I want to partial off grid and
need to study info on design and construction.
Any suggestions on good books on the subject?
Thanks,
Michelle
 
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wmbjk

Hi,
I a starting to design my next house. I want to partial off grid and
need to study info on design and construction.
Any suggestions on good books on the subject?
Thanks,
Michelle

This book is well recommended http://www.solarsolar.com/solarbk.html

As little as $12 here
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0937948098/ref=pd_sxp_f/103-8057388-4335804


And there's lots of free info on the web

http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html online magazine

http://www.green-trust.org a very comprehensive renewable energy site

http://offgrid.homestead.com/OffGridersPage.html Several off-grid
homes. Lots of different locations and approaches

http://www.autobahn.mb.ca/~het/energy/pv_faq.html Answers to
frequently asked questions about solar

http://www.homepower.com/education/index.cfm Home Power magazine
education section

http://www.homepower.com/magazine/downloads.cfm Home Power magazine
free download section

http://tinyurl.com/dvlha Home Power magazine CDs

http://www.nrel.gov/homer/ System sizing software

http://www.solar-electric.com/ Comprehensive web site of solar power
equipment and advice

Wayne
 
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George Ghio

"Staring at the Sun"
George L Ghio
$25US postage paid air mail.

Contents and sample of layout on request.

George L Ghio
Solar Power Consultant
 
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Anthony Matonak

George, not to be offensive or anything, but how many copies
of your book have you managed to sell at that price?

Anthony
 
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George Ghio

How much money did you make last year?

Good question, eh. But to be honest, none of my business.

I'm kinda surprised that you feel it's your business. Perhaps you feel
that I should produce the names and phone numbers of my customers as well.

It is offensive. Especially, when no matter what the number is the
result will be either derision of my book or the people who have
purchased it. Even though I have only received thanks for a plain
English book on the subject.

So, the question is; Do I inflate the number to look important? or; Do I
go for the humble approach and claim less than I have sold?

Then again I could tell you how much it weighs. That seems to be the way
one gains respect as a designer in these NGs.

It really is a dilemma. And you must admit that the points I make have
merit.

People who have never read my book have done their best to discredit it.

So what is your aim? What are you trying to prove? What difference does
it make? Will you call me a liar no matter what I say?

Would you believe me if I said it hasn't paid for itself?

Would you believe me if I said that the money is of little consequence
in my life? Or that I don't care if "Staring at the Sun" sells at all?

I offer a book about Solar Power on CD that is in plain English for
people who are just starting. The book has sizing spread sheets for Mac
and PC, it contains an extensive glossary and is hyperlinked for ease of
finding the information required.

Approx 75 to date would be a very close number. Not that it is any of
your business.

George L Ghio
Solar Power Consultant
 
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John P Bengi

Buy something on eBay and see if it gets shipped for less than $25
 
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Anthony Matonak

George,
I was simply curious as to your success at sales with that price.
Just a passing question, a mild curiosity, a moment where my fingers
got the better of me.

George said:
How much money did you make last year?

More than some. Less than others. Ain't that the way of the world? :)
Good question, eh. But to be honest, none of my business.

You could have stopped there, eh?
I'm kinda surprised that you feel it's your business. Perhaps you feel
that I should produce the names and phone numbers of my customers as well.

Perhaps I felt that since you advertise your book here, doing business
here, that the business you do here becomes the business of those that
are here. (As much as there is a 'here' in cyberspace.)

I'm not particularly interested in the names and phone numbers of your
customers unless they happen to be sweet marriage minded young ladies
who are interested in moving to the United States. :)
It is offensive. Especially, when no matter what the number is the
result will be either derision of my book or the people who have
purchased it. Even though I have only received thanks for a plain
English book on the subject.

I wasn't planning on derision but if you insist on it, I'm sure
someone will oblige. I'm not terribly good at it anyhow.
So, the question is; Do I inflate the number to look important? or; Do I
go for the humble approach and claim less than I have sold?

Odd that telling the truth wasn't your first, or even second, thought.
Then again I could tell you how much it weighs. That seems to be the way
one gains respect as a designer in these NGs.

Well, it would be one way to tell shipping costs.
It really is a dilemma. And you must admit that the points I make have
merit.
People who have never read my book have done their best to discredit it.

I see your point. It is troublesome doing business on the internet and
trying to sell things through usenet advertising. Isn't it? Perhaps
there is a better way.
So what is your aim? What are you trying to prove? What difference does
it make? Will you call me a liar no matter what I say?
Would you believe me if I said it hasn't paid for itself?
Would you believe me if I said that the money is of little consequence
in my life? Or that I don't care if "Staring at the Sun" sells at all?

Odd, if you don't care then why not simply upload it to a renewable
energy website somewhere and let people get it for free? Sounds like
a lot less trouble than trying to publish it yourself.

Since you ask... Your putting a price (and a middling high one at that)
on your book means you care about money. Since you are trying to sell
it then you must care, at least a little, that it sells. Therefore,
if you were to make statements like the above, your actions and your
words would be contrary to each other and I would believe your actions
more. That is to say, in short, that I would believe you but not believe
what you say.

Do you think you're likely to say things like that?
Approx 75 to date would be a very close number. Not that it is any of
your business.

Gosh, to think that you could have simply responded with that single
line and saved yourself some typing.

Anthony
 
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George Ghio

Anthony said:
George,
I was simply curious as to your success at sales with that price.
Just a passing question, a mild curiosity, a moment where my fingers
got the better of me.

Yep, curiosity and cats, Eh.
More than some. Less than others. Ain't that the way of the world? :)



You could have stopped there, eh?



Perhaps I felt that since you advertise your book here, doing business
here, that the business you do here becomes the business of those that
are here. (As much as there is a 'here' in cyberspace.)

You may, or may not, have noticed that the only time I offer my book is
in direct response to a request.
I'm not particularly interested in the names and phone numbers of your
customers unless they happen to be sweet marriage minded young ladies
who are interested in moving to the United States. :)

Some of them as well. But you have to be of a mind to escape to a better
life.
I wasn't planning on derision but if you insist on it, I'm sure
someone will oblige. I'm not terribly good at it anyhow.

Ah, you see the point.
Odd that telling the truth wasn't your first, or even second, thought.

What I said is true. For a given value of true. This is usenet after
all. I could tell you anything. Which was the point. What I told you is
the truth.
Well, it would be one way to tell shipping costs.

As I pay the shipping, by air, anywhere in the world and provide backup
and further advice at no extra cost, day or night, phone or email, Do
you want to know or even care what it weighs. If you like I could use a
ploy that is common in business around the world i.e. Take your money
and ignore your phone calls. If it is felt that the price is too high
you can pay me $25AUD and I can send the CD by surface mail. That would
be delivery in 3 - 5 months and I might, or might not, care whether you
need more information or help. Who knows.

No I offer a product that comes with all the back up you could want for
a price that is peanuts compared to what a system will cost you, with
the bonus of being able to ring or email me anytime to discuss your project.
I see your point. It is troublesome doing business on the internet and
trying to sell things through usenet advertising. Isn't it? Perhaps
there is a better way.

It's no trouble at all. The product is on offer. It is advertised in one
magazine.
Odd, if you don't care then why not simply upload it to a renewable
energy website somewhere and let people get it for free? Sounds like
a lot less trouble than trying to publish it yourself.

Please don't misunderstand, The money is of little consequence in my
life because it does not make up a large part of my income. But like
most people I expect to be paid for my work.

Then there is the question of publishing. I can get the book printed and
bound for around $60 a copy, And still have to include a CD for the
spread sheets.

I would suggest that you write a book. Send it to a publisher. You will
get an education.

Since you ask... Your putting a price (and a middling high one at that)
on your book means you care about money. Since you are trying to sell
it then you must care, at least a little, that it sells. Therefore,
if you were to make statements like the above, your actions and your
words would be contrary to each other and I would believe your actions
more. That is to say, in short, that I would believe you but not believe
what you say.

Do you think you're likely to say things like that?

I wrote the book. My time, research and expenses. I still don't care if
someone buys it or not. If you want it you pay for it. There are any
number of people here that will give you free information, myself included.

It is not a copy of a page that was copied from another page. It is
legible, entertaining, informative and does not try to sell you
anything. Just clear information in plain English that can be used to
design a solar power system that works as designed.
Gosh, to think that you could have simply responded with that single
line and saved yourself some typing.

Yes I could have. But then you would have gone away thinking that
Americans can be rude, and still get what they want, just because they
are Americans.
 
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