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FYI: Sample Elk Security Wiring Diagram

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IVB

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mikey

good lord man, that's a diary... sheesh, waay too much to plough through
and I never did see any diagram. I'd be curious what you're doing with the
panel but too hard to find a drawing.

I did read and scroll a bit. How you found time to do the work and write all
that
is beyond me. You saying something about not having to spend a lot of money
and then, elsewhere you say this:
I know I said I could do a smarthome for $10K-$15K, but now it looks like
DIY Home Theater Automation is going to cost me $200K-$300K.

Still think your an end-user with no financial stake?
Why are you re-inventing the wheel? I f you have that kind of coin to throw
around, get a professional in there and do it right.


IVB said:
If anyone here cares, i put up a sample elk security wiring diagram on my
blog [http://homeautomation.wordpress.com/ ] and also on cocoontech
[http://www.cocoontech.com/index.php?showtopic=4327]

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Note: I am a mere end-user with no financial stake in any products that I
may discuss.

Last Updated 4/11 - My Personal Website w/ my integrated HT & HAPC system
www.myhomeautomationpc.com

My HA/HT Blog:
http://homeautomation.wordpress.com/



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IVB

Thx for reading & for the feedback. Here's some clarifications
good lord man, that's a diary... sheesh, waay too much to plough through
FYI - It's not meant to be a single posting for folks to read; it actually
is an online diary of my work, there's posts spanning 2 weeks there.
and I never did see any diagram. I'd be curious what you're doing with the
panel but too hard to find a drawing.

If you look at http://homeautomation.wordpress.com/ , you'll see the links
at the bottom of the first post. Here's that first post:
Somebody about how the basic wiring/etc was done. I'm sure I got a ton of
stuff wrong, but the basic theory I think is sound. Here's an example sensor
layout according to how i'm doing it. [not my house, don't worry].

Also, on the how-to, I just got 2 training CDs from Elk in the mail today.
I'm going to setup myhomeautomationpc.com as a holder for any salient
content from end-users as to how they've setup their systems, and will be
hosting the training content there.

http://www.myhometheaterpc.com/temp/house wiring.jpg

http://www.myhometheaterpc.com/temp/house wiring2.JPG

You saying something about not having to spend a lot of money
and then, elsewhere you say this:
I know I said I could do a smarthome for $10K-$15K, but now it looks like
DIY Home Theater Automation is going to cost me $200K-$300K.

That was meant to be facetious. If you look at this page
http://homeautomation.wordpress.com/2006/04/26/talk-about-scope-creep/ , and
add up all the PC and sensor costs, you'll see that I'll have spent about
$7500 for a 3-machine HTPC/HAPC system including 40 sensors. Considering I
have 3TB of storage in those systems, that's pretty dang cheap.

Step 8 is me deciding to spend $5K to build out my attic, which wouldn't
have occurred to me unless I started climbing around up there to lay down
wire.

Step 10 is my wife deciding that if I'm going to build out the attic, we may
as well put a 2nd floor on the house.
IVB said:
If anyone here cares, i put up a sample elk security wiring diagram on my
blog [http://homeautomation.wordpress.com/ ] and also on cocoontech
[http://www.cocoontech.com/index.php?showtopic=4327]

-----------------------------------------------------
Note: I am a mere end-user with no financial stake in any products that I
may discuss.

Last Updated 4/11 - My Personal Website w/ my integrated HT & HAPC system
www.myhomeautomationpc.com

My HA/HT Blog:
http://homeautomation.wordpress.com/



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Crash Gordon

If you keeep on the spending spree yer wife is likely to lock you in the
attic! :)



| Thx for reading & for the feedback. Here's some clarifications
|
| > good lord man, that's a diary... sheesh, waay too much to plough through
| FYI - It's not meant to be a single posting for folks to read; it actually
| is an online diary of my work, there's posts spanning 2 weeks there.
|
| >and I never did see any diagram. I'd be curious what you're doing with
the
| >panel but too hard to find a drawing.
|
| If you look at http://homeautomation.wordpress.com/ , you'll see the links
| at the bottom of the first post. Here's that first post:
| Somebody about how the basic wiring/etc was done. I'm sure I got a ton of
| stuff wrong, but the basic theory I think is sound. Here's an example
sensor
| layout according to how i'm doing it. [not my house, don't worry].
|
| Also, on the how-to, I just got 2 training CDs from Elk in the mail today.
| I'm going to setup myhomeautomationpc.com as a holder for any salient
| content from end-users as to how they've setup their systems, and will be
| hosting the training content there.
|
| http://www.myhometheaterpc.com/temp/house wiring.jpg
|
| http://www.myhometheaterpc.com/temp/house wiring2.JPG
|
|
| > You saying something about not having to spend a lot of money
| > and then, elsewhere you say this:
| > I know I said I could do a smarthome for $10K-$15K, but now it looks
like
| > DIY Home Theater Automation is going to cost me $200K-$300K.
|
| That was meant to be facetious. If you look at this page
| http://homeautomation.wordpress.com/2006/04/26/talk-about-scope-creep/ ,
and
| add up all the PC and sensor costs, you'll see that I'll have spent about
| $7500 for a 3-machine HTPC/HAPC system including 40 sensors. Considering I
| have 3TB of storage in those systems, that's pretty dang cheap.
|
| Step 8 is me deciding to spend $5K to build out my attic, which wouldn't
| have occurred to me unless I started climbing around up there to lay down
| wire.
|
| Step 10 is my wife deciding that if I'm going to build out the attic, we
may
| as well put a 2nd floor on the house.
| >
| > | >> If anyone here cares, i put up a sample elk security wiring diagram on
my
| >> blog [http://homeautomation.wordpress.com/ ] and also on cocoontech
| >> [http://www.cocoontech.com/index.php?showtopic=4327]
| >>
| >> -----------------------------------------------------
| >> Note: I am a mere end-user with no financial stake in any products that
I
| >> may discuss.
| >>
| >> Last Updated 4/11 - My Personal Website w/ my integrated HT & HAPC
system
| >> www.myhomeautomationpc.com
| >>
| >> My HA/HT Blog:
| >> http://homeautomation.wordpress.com/
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
| >
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Bob Worthy

Step 8 is me deciding to spend $5K to build out my attic, which wouldn't
have occurred to me unless I started climbing around up there to lay down
wire.

What was Step #9?
Step 10 is my wife deciding that if I'm going to build out the attic, we may
as well put a 2nd floor on the house.

Don't let your Duracell's run out. You'll end up face down in your spagetti.
 
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IVB

Step 9 was:
As long as I'm building out the attic, I better put speakers in every single
room now even if I don't know if I want it. It's cheap now as I just have to
drill holes in the ceiling and mount speakers - it's much more expensive
once the attic is built out.
 
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Robert L Bass

As long as I'm building out the attic, I better put speakers
in every single room now even if I don't know if I want it.
It's cheap now as I just have to drill holes in the ceiling
and mount speakers - it's much more expensive once the
attic is built out.

You don't necessarily have to install all the speakers now. You can just
run wires for them possibly for a multi-zone A/V controller for now. If you
want to be ready for *most* of the current systems, wire as follows using
cable that is rated for in-wall use:

From the music center (or HT rack) to a volume control location in each room
(2) CAT5 cables plus 14/4 stranded speaker cable. At the VC location leave
a couple of feet of extra cable in the wall. Do the same behind the music
center or AV rack.

From the volume control location to each speaker run 14/2 stranded speaker
cable. Again, leave a couple of feet of extra cable at each end. Make an
18-24" service loop in one of the CAT5 cables at the VC location and bring
the end over to one of the speakers. It makes no difference whether the
CAT5 goes to the left or right speaker but be consistent from room to room.
Leaving a couple of feet of extra, cut off the other CAT5 cable at the VC
location.

If there will be a TV set in the room, also run (1) CAT5 and (2) RG6Q/S
cables from the AV rack location to the wall behind the set. Some folks
recommend running composite cable to remote TVs but IMO it's overkill.
Other than in the family room / home theater locations it's not necessary.

The CAT5 at the volume control locations will allow you to install any
number of multi-zone entertainment systems. By running speaker and video
cables as well, you also have the option of using simpler (less expensive)
impedance-matching volume controls. The CAT5 at the speaker will allow you
to connect an IR receiver to control whatever system you use by pointing
your remote at the speaker. That's especially handy in bedrooms where the
VC near the door may not be within view.

Many of the better quality in-wall and in-ceiling speakers can be installed
without using pre-wire brackets. Proficient Audio, for example, has
swing-out clamps on their speakers which grip the sheetrock. The advantage
of not using brackets is threefold. You save the cost of the brackets, you
can cut the speakers in later when funds allow and there's one less thing to
rattle later. The advantage of using brackets is there's a huge hole in the
ceiling so your wife will let you install the speakers immediately. :^)

Take a look at Proficient Audio, Russound and Niles Audio for DIY
whole-house AV. Proficient, a division of SpeakerCraft, makes really good
sounding architectural speakers. Russound's speakers are good too, though
having listened to and installed most both I prefer Proficient. Russound
and Niles both make excellent controls and distribution goodies. Another
brand worth considering if budget permits is Xantech. Their MARC88 system
is one of excellent.

Note: I sell most of these brands (except Niles) online so I have a vested
interest in promoting them but they really are good stuff. Niles is fine
quality too. I just don't carry it.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
941-866-1100 Sales & Tech Support
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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IVB

Dude, be quiet man! My wife might read this!

Robert L Bass said:
You don't necessarily have to install all the speakers now. You can just
run wires for them possibly for a multi-zone A/V controller for now. If
you want to be ready for *most* of the current systems, wire as follows
using cable that is rated for in-wall use:

This thread has the wiring i'm running. It's pretty dang complete, i'm
opting for component distro now.
http://charmedquark.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6920
 
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Robert L Bass

Heh, heh, heh... :^)
Dude, be quiet man! My wife might read this!

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
941-866-1100 Sales & Tech Support
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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