First Alert Fa 148c programming

[Paul Brewington]

I have a customer who moved into a house with this panel.
I assume I have to buy a programming keypad or compass software for
First Alert. Anybody have one of these for sale?

 

[Crash Gordon]

You can use an old 6139, or the new(er) 6160. There's no real need for
Compass...and I believe you'd need not only Compass but the FA patch
too...which may be hard to finagle if you're not in the biz.



|I have a customer who moved into a house with this panel.
| I assume I have to buy a programming keypad or compass software for
| First Alert. Anybody have one of these for sale?

 

[Paul Brewington]

I tried a 6139 keypad. It said "incompatiable keypad"

 

[Crash Gordon]

I've never seen that msg displayed anywhere. The 148 is the same as a Vista
15...the 6139 will program it. Did you have the keypad addressed correctly
and programmed in the panel at *190, 191 etc?


|I tried a 6139 keypad. It said "incompatiable keypad"
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| On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:54:39 -0700, "Crash Gordon"
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| >You can use an old 6139, or the new(er) 6160. There's no real need for
| >Compass...and I believe you'd need not only Compass but the FA patch
| >too...which may be hard to finagle if you're not in the biz.
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| >| >|I have a customer who moved into a house with this panel.
| >| I assume I have to buy a programming keypad or compass software for
| >| First Alert. Anybody have one of these for sale?
| >

 

[Paul Brewington]

I believe It was a FA 148 C. I will double check later today.

I set the 6139 to adress 16 and 31. Neither one worked.
The existing kp was disconnected for the testing.
The Ademco Tech told me it was a vista 10 se.

 

[Crash Gordon]

142c or 145c is a 10se, pretty sure the 148c is a straight 15.





|I believe It was a FA 148 C. I will double check later today.
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| I set the 6139 to adress 16 and 31. Neither one worked.
| The existing kp was disconnected for the testing.
| The Ademco Tech told me it was a vista 10 se.
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| On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:14:09 -0700, "Crash Gordon"
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| >I've never seen that msg displayed anywhere. The 148 is the same as a
Vista
| >15...the 6139 will program it. Did you have the keypad addressed
correctly
| >and programmed in the panel at *190, 191 etc?
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| >| >|I tried a 6139 keypad. It said "incompatiable keypad"
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| >| On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:54:39 -0700, "Crash Gordon"
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| >| >You can use an old 6139, or the new(er) 6160. There's no real need for
| >| >Compass...and I believe you'd need not only Compass but the FA patch
| >| >too...which may be hard to finagle if you're not in the biz.
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| >| >| >| >|I have a customer who moved into a house with this panel.
| >| >| I assume I have to buy a programming keypad or compass software for
| >| >| First Alert. Anybody have one of these for sale?
| >| >
| >

 

[Crash Gordon]

thanks, never knew that...coulda sworn I'd used ademco keypads on FAs
before.


| If you try an Ademco 6150 on a FA1600C it says "incompat console" and does
a
| fast beep. And won't work.
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| Rick
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| | > You can use an old 6139, or the new(er) 6160. There's no real need for
| > Compass...and I believe you'd need not only Compass but the FA patch
| > too...which may be hard to finagle if you're not in the biz.
| >
| >
| >
| > | > |I have a customer who moved into a house with this panel.
| > | I assume I have to buy a programming keypad or compass software for
| > | First Alert. Anybody have one of these for sale?
| >
| >
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[Bob Worthy]

thanks, never knew that...coulda sworn I'd used ademco keypads on FAs
before.

Will FAs keypads work on Ademco panels? If so, maybe someone changed out the
FA board to an Ademco board, leaving it in the same can, at one point to get
the account. Crazier things have happened.

 

[Crash Gordon]

Could be...stranger things have happened. One time we were trying to program
an Ademco panel (sorry, can't remember which model), we where having a hell
of a time, there seemed to be missing or extra programming addresses that
didn't match up with the programming sheet (new out of box panel mind
you)...turns out we had a pre-release version of something we should not
have had. Killed my entire day.



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| | > thanks, never knew that...coulda sworn I'd used ademco keypads on FAs
| > before.
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| Will FAs keypads work on Ademco panels? If so, maybe someone changed out
the
| FA board to an Ademco board, leaving it in the same can, at one point to
get
| the account. Crazier things have happened.
|
|

 

[Mark Leuck]

I tried a 6139 keypad. It said "incompatiable keypad"

Yea it will do that

 

[Mark Leuck]

I've never seen that msg displayed anywhere. The 148 is the same as a Vista
15...the 6139 will program it. Did you have the keypad addressed correctly
and programmed in the panel at *190, 191 etc?

Several First Alert panels will do just that, the 148C, 160C and a couple of
others that I know of

 

[Mark Leuck]

Try keypad address 8, then try 0.

8?

 

[Mark Leuck]

thanks, never knew that...coulda sworn I'd used ademco keypads on FAs
before.

I'm sure you have although not on these specific systems, some FA panels
require FA keypads and some don't

 

[Mark Leuck]

An Ademco 6150 will work on FA 147C and FA 168C, as will the Ademco 6128 and
its replacement, whatever that # is, I forget.

If you don't mind me asking what was the 147C made for? I've heard that
model number but not who used it or roughly what panel it cross-references
to

 

[Mark Leuck]

Thanks for the info, I always wondered about that panel and Honeywell
wouldn't tell me