Entry delay problem on Visonic's Meastro 1600

[Janus Krarup]

Dear Group,

This is my first post to this group - i hope someone might have encounted
this problem before and can guide me to a solution.

I have encounted problems using delay zones on the Visonic Maestro 1600 DL
(FW ver 4.00). The problem is:

1) A zone is (via installer menu location 04) set as a delay zone type 1
("2")
2) the system is armed, the exit delay sounds and everything seems fine. BUT
opening of the loop triggers an instant alarm

To diagnose and narrow down the cause i have:

1) Stripped the system of *everyhting* and reproduced the problem on
different zones
2) Checked the sensor (reed switch) manually -It works perfectly, the EOL
resistor is there. The system is able to detect crossing of the wires (HW
problem) and senses open and close positions just fine. If the zone is
configures to "instant" it works flawlessly.
3) The system is able to discriminate between delay type I and II - with
respect to the "ready" status which allows arming, everything is fine.
I have tried on another alarm board, but with the same result. I am
absolutely puzzled and suspect some kind of programming error on my part.

I feel pretty stuck right now, and would appreciate any help you might be
able to provide.

thank you in advance.

best regards

Janus, Denmark

 

[Mark or Sue]

I have encounted problems using delay zones on the Visonic Maestro 1600 DL
(FW ver 4.00). The problem is:

1) A zone is (via installer menu location 04) set as a delay zone type 1
("2")
2) the system is armed, the exit delay sounds and everything seems fine. BUT
opening of the loop triggers an instant alarm

To diagnose and narrow down the cause i have:

1) Stripped the system of *everyhting* and reproduced the problem on
different zones
2) Checked the sensor (reed switch) manually -It works perfectly, the EOL
resistor is there. The system is able to detect crossing of the wires (HW
problem) and senses open and close positions just fine. If the zone is
configures to "instant" it works flawlessly.
3) The system is able to discriminate between delay type I and II - with
respect to the "ready" status which allows arming, everything is fine.
I have tried on another alarm board, but with the same result. I am
absolutely puzzled and suspect some kind of programming error on my part.

I feel pretty stuck right now, and would appreciate any help you might be
able to provide.

I have the Visonic powermax which seems similar, but I'm not familiar with
your specific product. Do you have any of the following you can set in the
programming interface:

Forced Arming
Restart Exit

If so, try playing with the on/off values for those parameters and see if
things work. Be careful with the first one, as this could solve the problem,
but leave that door bypassed so it effectively has no alarm protection. Make
sure things work totally right after altering this value!

Obviously, the door sensor is working, but somehow that alarm isn't treating
this as a delay. Also, you do have "arm home" and "arm away" settings? If
so, I'm not so sure the delay works in the "arm home" mode, and you
shouldn't be operning doors when using that mode.

 

[Janus Krarup]

Hi Mark,

Thank you for your quick reply.

I have the Visonic powermax which seems similar, but I'm not familiar with
your specific product. Do you have any of the following you can set in the
programming interface:

Forced Arming
Restart Exit

Hmm, I can't recognizethe last one. My impression is that forced arming
should only be needed if I used a delay type II zone (which affects the
ready state, and hence will not let you arm the system unless the door is
closed - delay or not). In my case, the alarm arms perfectly after the exit
delay.
Just a note on the system - The Maestro 1600 is a hardwired 8 zone system,
expandable to 16. It has a modem (DL) and a remote keypad that communicates
through a 4 wire bus. I am familiar with the powermax system.

Obviously, the door sensor is working, but somehow that alarm isn't treating
this as a delay. Also, you do have "arm home" and "arm away" settings? If
so, I'm not so sure the delay works in the "arm home" mode, and you
shouldn't be operning doors when using that mode.

This is one thing that i want to check right away - i clearly see your
point. I will test tomorrow and get right back.

Thank you so much for your input - I appreciate it greatly. I'll be back
soon with a follow-up

best regards

Janus

 

[Janus Krarup]

Hi Mark,

I need to RTFM. My understanding of the "instant arming" was simply that it
armed right away and only affected the exit delay. However, using this
function disables the entry delay at the same time! If i simply let the exit
delay beep all the way to the end without arming manually, it works
flawlessly during subsequent entry.

Sorry to have spent your time, thank you for your help

best regards

Janus