Electronic Rust Protection Device

[[email protected]]

Dealers Required RUST STOP Device.
Dear Sir,

The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in
the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a
protective electron field within the metal fabric of the vehicle. This
protective field disrupts the normal rusting process by generating
readily available free electrons, which in the rusting process are
taken, leaving the steel intact.


No Extra Pads.
No Extra Wiring.
With digital Display for Showing the Battery Voltages.
Bottom Side of the Device is working itself as a strong Anodic Pad.

Installation very easy just Connect the battery terminals and fix the
ECC device at suitable place.

Mr. Jamil Ahmed.
Export Manager
Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44
[email protected]

 

[clanker]

Dealers Required RUST STOP Device.
Dear Sir,

The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in
the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a
protective electron field within the metal fabric of the vehicle. This
protective field disrupts the normal rusting process by generating
readily available free electrons, which in the rusting process are
taken, leaving the steel intact.


No Extra Pads.
No Extra Wiring.
With digital Display for Showing the Battery Voltages.
Bottom Side of the Device is working itself as a strong Anodic Pad.

Installation very easy just Connect the battery terminals and fix the
ECC device at suitable place.

Mr. Jamil Ahmed.
Export Manager
Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44
[email protected]

I have got a chook and a rabbit !

 

[ian field]

Dealers Required RUST STOP Device.
Dear Sir,

The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in
the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a
protective electron field within the metal fabric of the vehicle. This
protective field disrupts the normal rusting process by generating
readily available free electrons, which in the rusting process are
taken, leaving the steel intact.


No Extra Pads.
No Extra Wiring.
With digital Display for Showing the Battery Voltages.
Bottom Side of the Device is working itself as a strong Anodic Pad.

Installation very easy just Connect the battery terminals and fix the
ECC device at suitable place.

Mr. Jamil Ahmed.
Export Manager
Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44
[email protected]

Snake oil! - just rivet a strip of zinc on somewhere to act as a sacrificial
electrode.

 

[Franc Zabkar]

Snake oil! - just rivet a strip of zinc on somewhere to act as a sacrificial
electrode.

Has anyone ever seen any rust prevention device in a domestic hot
water system other than a magnesium anode?

- Franc Zabkar

 

[Tom]

Mr. Jamil Ahmed.
Export Manager
Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44
[email protected]

Isn't it funny to shorten "mobile" to "mobil.", same number of characters.

 

[swanny]

Dealers Required RUST STOP Device.
Dear Sir,

The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in
the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a
protective electron field within the metal fabric of the vehicle. This
protective field disrupts the normal rusting process by generating
readily available free electrons, which in the rusting process are
taken, leaving the steel intact.


No Extra Pads.
No Extra Wiring.
With digital Display for Showing the Battery Voltages.
Bottom Side of the Device is working itself as a strong Anodic Pad.

Installation very easy just Connect the battery terminals and fix the
ECC device at suitable place.

Mr. Jamil Ahmed.
Export Manager
Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44
[email protected]

Sounds like a fancy description of a battery.

 

[clanker]

Isn't it funny to shorten "mobile" to "mobil.", same number of characters.

Well, the single dot is a Morse Code 'e' !

 

[K Ludger]

I have got a chook and a rabbit !

I strongly suspect Mr Ahmed may have already have a camel.

 

[K Ludger]

Has anyone ever seen any rust prevention device in a domestic hot
water system other than a magnesium anode?

- Franc Zabkar

Sort of OT, AFAIK outboard motors use a zinc anode.

How pue is the HWS magnesium anode?

 

[clanker]

Sort of OT, AFAIK outboard motors use a zinc anode.

How pue is the HWS magnesium anode?

In both the water heater and the outboard case the cathodic protection
has a circuit return through the water.

This car 'electronic juju' has no return path - except via the giga-ohms
air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich
quick" masturbation exercise.

The OP might scam some idjits at eBay like his mates do with '12 Volt
electric superchargers', and 'combustion-ehnancing swirl plates' which
claim a 30% decrease in fuel consumption...the sellers only need a few
fools a day to survive quite nicely.

"Sophisticated electronics" includes some coloured wire and a mounting
screw.

I have a bridge for sale !

 

[Franc Zabkar]

In both the water heater and the outboard case the cathodic protection
has a circuit return through the water.

This car 'electronic juju' has no return path - except via the giga-ohms
air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich
quick" masturbation exercise.

If there's no return path, ie no water, then the car won't rust. ;-)

- Franc Zabkar

 

[Clint Sharp]

Snake oil! - just rivet a strip of zinc on somewhere to act as a sacrificial
electrode.

I can't speak for the OP's devices but that sort of technology does
work, they're used successfully on quite a lot of buildings put up in
the last 10-15 years. I interviewed (and got the job but turned it down
later) for a company that built them based around PSoC chips.

Quite clever devices, they had a way of measuring and calculating the
current needed to keep the steelwork safe so it could adjust
automatically, logging the changes in EEPROM that could be downloaded
via a serial link.

 

[Andy Wood]

.. . .

Do you have those 'water conditioners' in your neck of the woods that are
claimed to work 'by altering the crystallisation behaviour of Calcium and
Magnesium ions' that would otherwise scale-up your pipes and boiler? Things
like http://www.freescale.co.uk/ and http://www.littleplumber.com/.

Some of them have a pair of open-ended wires emanating from a box of
'electronics' that are meant to be wrapped around a water pipe - even a
copper one. A 'consumers' guide' to these things
(http://www.britishwater.co.uk/Document/Download.aspx?uid=ee36c54e-925e-4b64-b732-b7b13aa6a638)
says: 'It is acknowledged that in some circumstances conditioners do not
work or are not as effective as expected. It is therefore important that, as
with all domestic products, the type of conditioner that is purchased comes
with a manufacturer's performance-linked money-back guarantee' ... but, of
course, they don't and the documentation that comes with these things
doesn't actually say anything that can be tested.

Where I used to work, we acquired a wall-mounted water boiler for making
cups of tea (!) which used to scale up badly so one of these things was
fitted by the local 'handymen'. The boiler scaled up just as badly. Later
we went back to using a kettle (!!) and opened up the case of the 'water
conditioner' to find little more than a couple of 555s.

Chris

I have never seen one of those here, but I am certainly aware of their
popularity in the UK. For years I have seen Magenta Electronics
advertising a kit for one. This is not your garden variety 555 one
either, no sir, this is a high power microcontroller-based one. Like
you say, they are careful not to make great claims about it, only that
it *may* help reduce scale formation.

http://tinyurl.com/5gg5lw

I would not be surprised if that kit is based on a project published
in Everyday Practical Electronics - that magazine occasionally
publishes projects that may, let us say, be based on
less-than-mainstream science.


Andy Wood
[email protected]

 

[ian field]

. . .

I have never seen one of those here, but I am certainly aware of their
popularity in the UK. For years I have seen Magenta Electronics
advertising a kit for one. This is not your garden variety 555 one
either, no sir, this is a high power microcontroller-based one. Like
you say, they are careful not to make great claims about it, only that
it *may* help reduce scale formation.

http://tinyurl.com/5gg5lw

I would not be surprised if that kit is based on a project published
in Everyday Practical Electronics - that magazine occasionally
publishes projects that may, let us say, be based on
less-than-mainstream science.

At a time I was working on a building site they were routinely installing
"calcium modifiers" to every new apartment.

These were brazed copper capsules with an integral copper pipe through the
middle. The capsule contained a stack of ferrite ring magnets, not unlike
the one's used in oven magnetrons.

 

[Ross Herbert]

:
::>K Ludger wrote:
:>> :>>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:13:36 -0000, "ian field"
:
:- snip -
:>
:> This car 'electronic juju' has no return path - except via the giga-ohms
:> air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich
:> quick" masturbation exercise.
:>
:> The OP might scam some idjits at eBay like his mates do with '12 Volt
:> electric superchargers', and 'combustion-ehnancing swirl plates' which
:> claim a 30% decrease in fuel consumption...the sellers only need a few
:> fools a day to survive quite nicely.
:>
:> "Sophisticated electronics" includes some coloured wire and a mounting
:> screw.
:>
:> I have a bridge for sale !
:
:
o you have those 'water conditioners' in your neck of the woods that are
:claimed to work 'by altering the crystallisation behaviour of Calcium and
:Magnesium ions' that would otherwise scale-up your pipes and boiler? Things
:like http://www.freescale.co.uk/ and http://www.littleplumber.com/.
:
:Some of them have a pair of open-ended wires emanating from a box of
:'electronics' that are meant to be wrapped around a water pipe - even a
:copper one. A 'consumers' guide' to these things
http://www.britishwater.co.uk/Document/Download.aspx?uid=ee36c54e-925e-4b64-b732-b7b13aa6a638)
:says: 'It is acknowledged that in some circumstances conditioners do not
:work or are not as effective as expected. It is therefore important that, as
:with all domestic products, the type of conditioner that is purchased comes
:with a manufacturer's performance-linked money-back guarantee' ... but, of
:course, they don't and the documentation that comes with these things
:doesn't actually say anything that can be tested.
:
:Where I used to work, we acquired a wall-mounted water boiler for making
:cups of tea (!) which used to scale up badly so one of these things was
:fitted by the local 'handymen'. The boiler scaled up just as badly. Later
:we went back to using a kettle (!!) and opened up the case of the 'water
:conditioner' to find little more than a couple of 555s.
:
:Chris
:


Hydrosmart is one such device claimed to remove scale etc as water flows through
the pipes - even at high flow rates.
http://www.hydrosmart.com.au/

Here is a good reference site for water treatment scams and pseudo
science/quackery
http://www.chem1.com/CQ/magscams.html

 

[The Real Andy]

If there's no return path, ie no water, then the car won't rust. ;-)

- Franc Zabkar

Unless the water molecule is on the grain boundaries of the metal.