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Crossreference for a AD542KH?

J

Jamie

JW said:
Hello,

Was wondering if someone might be able to suggest a cross reference for a
Analog Devices AD542KH which is long obsolete?
Datasheet:
http://search.analog.com/search/default.aspx?query=AD542KH&local=en

This is used as part of a resistance current circuit source for a HP 3478A
5.5 digit DMM.

Thanks.
You most likely won't find one in that package how ever, if you google
PRECISION op-amps., you'll fine many that actually have much better
spec's than what you're looking for and you can simply adapt one on the
board, if this is just a repair problem..

We have done this many times, replacing those older types of IC's with
newer types that have far lower offsets and noise figures. It usually
ends up with a better overall operating device.

P.S.
If this IC is part of a balanced circuit (i.e., kelvin bridge),
you'll need to replace both.
 
J

JW

You most likely won't find one in that package how ever, if you google
PRECISION op-amps., you'll fine many that actually have much better
spec's than what you're looking for and you can simply adapt one on the
board, if this is just a repair problem..

We have done this many times, replacing those older types of IC's with
newer types that have far lower offsets and noise figures. It usually
ends up with a better overall operating device.

Hi Jamie,

That wouldn't be a problem. But I'm not sure what I should replace it
*with* unfortunately. Never was any good at picking a good sub. :(
It is located in a HP 3478A 5.5 digit DMM, location U101, on the main
board in the current source circuit.
http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent...RIAL&ckey=722603&lc=eng&cc=US&nfr=-11143.0.00
Warning: it is 10.4MB if anybody is on dial-up.

P.S.
If this IC is part of a balanced circuit (i.e., kelvin bridge),
you'll need to replace both.

Nope, it's not.

Thanks.
 
J

Jamie

JW said:
Hi Jamie,

That wouldn't be a problem. But I'm not sure what I should replace it
*with* unfortunately. Never was any good at picking a good sub. :(
It is located in a HP 3478A 5.5 digit DMM, location U101, on the main
board in the current source circuit.
http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent...RIAL&ckey=722603&lc=eng&cc=US&nfr=-11143.0.00
Warning: it is 10.4MB if anybody is on dial-up.





Nope, it's not.

Thanks.
INA121PA

Try that, Its found at mouser.com, the offset voltage isn't as good
as the original but it's very close. I would say the important part of
it's operation that you need actually out spec's the original.
 
J

JW

[...]
INA121PA

Try that, Its found at mouser.com, the offset voltage isn't as good
as the original but it's very close. I would say the important part of
it's operation that you need actually out spec's the original.

OK, I'll give that one a try. Should I leave pins 1 and 8 disconnected for
gain of 1? The original device didn't have these pins...

Thanks again.
 
J

JW

[...]
I'd be careful about that. AD542 is an OPamp. INA121 is an INamp.
They are very different in function.

Have you tried crossing it on ADI's web site? I'm sure they have
something comparable or better in the present catalog, though
as another poster has said, possibly not in the metal can package.

Hi Stephan,

Yes, I did try to see if their web page would offer up a sub, but it
offers the AD544 and AD547 which are also obsolete. Thanks though.
 
U

Uwe Bonnes

J

Jamie

JW said:
[...]

INA121PA

Try that, Its found at mouser.com, the offset voltage isn't as good
as the original but it's very close. I would say the important part of
it's operation that you need actually out spec's the original.


OK, I'll give that one a try. Should I leave pins 1 and 8 disconnected for
gain of 1? The original device didn't have these pins...

Thanks again.
You need to set the gain at max. use R around the 5K region.

There is an issue here how ever, I don't know if you have +/- supply
with reference to common? I can only assume that you do, in which case,
the REF pin needs to be on the common, not the (-) rail.

After you have done that, the device should behave like your original.
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I've just did another look at your PDF file of your meter and the
op-amp you're using.

I do think a AD743 would be more particle for you even though the
input current is alittle higher. The data sheet does
not give a warm up time and drift how ever, in your application it may
not matter.

If you want to stick with older technology that is still being used
out there for the Bifet family..

The LF355/6/7, if you employ the balance circuit they show, it'll get
you to the input offset equal to what you need how ever, you may not
even need to do this. It's also possible you may still find in some old
stock the can packages which are pin for pin compatible.

It's just a matter of how exact you want the chip to be like the
original when it comes to stability in settling time and drift. I really
don't think you'll have issues for your needs.


Personally, I would experiment with the LF355/6/7 family and see how it
does. It don't cost that much so it's not like you're losing your
shirt tail.
 
J

JW

But, what are the power supplies connected to? A true drop-in
replacement if it takes +/-18V is going to be hard; if your
power supply is +/- 5V it gets easier. Using a 'cross
reference' will not find options that meet only SOME of
the specs, even if that would suit your application nicely.

The supply in this circuit is +/- 15V.
Thanks.
 
J

JW

I have a couple of AD542KH sitting on my desk right now. They are
datecode 8517, but have never been used as far as I can tell, and
have always been stored in a controlled (lab) environment. Part of
the secret stash...

Where shall I send them? Send me an email. To do so, you will
need to remove the uppercase letters from the indicated posting
address. Hint - there are three such.

Steve

Hello Steve,

Check your email, and thank you very much!

Jay
 
J

Jamie

Stephan said:
I have a couple of AD542KH sitting on my desk right now. They are
datecode 8517, but have never been used as far as I can tell, and
have always been stored in a controlled (lab) environment. Part of
the secret stash...

Where shall I send them? Send me an email. To do so, you will
need to remove the uppercase letters from the indicated posting
address. Hint - there are three such.

Steve
Nice guy you are :)
 
J

Jamie

Stephan said:
Those AD542s were never going to get used, the last time
we used them in a test fixture or breadboard was over 20
years ago. I'm glad they could be of use to someone.

Maybe some day you'll be able to do the same for me or
someone else.

Well, thanks for the offer, we too have a collection of the older
CAN type packages we bought out a few years ago to keep our aging RDI
equipment working.

Our facility still has in operation the very first, ever built,
irradiation unit for x-linking of ployrads etc.. This unit still is
using much of it's original electronics. The chemical engineering of the
first X linking compounds were also developed at the facility..

Of course, the world has grown and every one and their brother has
this process now :)
 
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