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Creative Labs Home/Cinema Theater Cable ?

S

Skybuck Flying

Hello,

I spent considerable time investigating 7.1 amplifiers/receivers to maybe
buy one.

Now I want to buy the Creative Labs home theater cable to be able to connect
the X-Fi elite pro soundblaster to such a 7.1 system.

It now turns out I can only order this cable via Creative Labs and via
credit cards ?

I don't have a credit card... many people in the Netherlands probably don't
have a credit card.

This means I am not stuck with the following:

1. I cannot connect all of the 7.1 amplifiers and 7.1 receivers in the world
to this device because of incompatible connections.
(The only possibility is non-analog connections but this would be
unstatisfactory because this would disable 7.1 support and other features).

2. I can only presumable connect Creative Labs speaker sets... <- vendor
lock in.

This is starting to piss me off.

Therefore I ask a question to all folks in the Netherlands and/or in the
rest of Europe:

1. Did you purchase a Creative Labs Home Theater Cable ?

2. If so where did you purchase it ?

3. Do you have a link to a website where I could purchase it without credit
cards ?

4. Failing that do you know a shop in the Netherlands where I might be able
to purchase it ?

I definetly do not want to purchase any Creative Labs speaker set because of
bad quality experiences.

Also most if not all of the speaker sets that Creative Labs sells are not
7.1... the best one is 5.1.

(Apperently there only 7.1 speaker set got discontinued because of
pressumbly bad quality).

"Vendor lock-in" could be a nice extra compliant in a possible law suit
against Creative Labs... added to "poor quality" complaint.

Also why did they not supply this home theater cable when I bought the
creative x-fi elite pro soundblaster ?

Seems like a pretty important cable !

Non of the dutch webstores seem to have it ?!

All in all very suspicious ! ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
S

Skybuck Flying

Well to be fair to creative labs...

Maybe the asus A8N-32 sli motherboard and onboard audio chipset has problems
too with connector compatibility ?

I only see 6 analog outputs on the backside of the pc ? (some might be
configurable ?)

At least 8 analog inputs are needed for 7.1 home theaters...

So I don't see how this could work ?! ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
S

Skybuck Flying

Maybe such a store as BCC "low price, high service"... could order such a
cable for me when I purchase a 7.1 receiver at their store...

That would be a nice service towards me... maybe they have a credit card ?
;) :)

(But I wouldn't be surprised if even a million euro store like BCC (in
netherlands) doesn't have a credit card ? That would be really funny ! ;)
:))

Bye,
Skybuck =D
 
S

Skybuck Flying

It was joking to myself: "high price, low service".

But the funny thing is in reality that's actually true.

The prices in the BCC store were somewhat high... and the service was low.

I could not properly inspect the "goods".

Most of the goods were placed low, or restricted with security cables.

I have gotten much better service at another store when I purchased my
digital photo camera.

There everything was explained to me by a nice young lady with titties
hanging out lol... and I could hold the device in my hands
and play with it and "do it" LOL.

However there the device was a little bit damaged though... one of the
buttons didn't work so well but at least it still worked.

The BCC claims to have extended warranty etc... I have no experience with
that... nor does anybody else seem to have any experiences with that.. or at
least they don't write about it on the internet... google doesn't find
them/it ;)

Warranty is very important though...

Bye,
Skybuck ;)
 
Q

qrk

Hello,

I spent considerable time investigating 7.1 amplifiers/receivers to maybe
buy one.

Now I want to buy the Creative Labs home theater cable to be able to connect
the X-Fi elite pro soundblaster to such a 7.1 system.

It now turns out I can only order this cable via Creative Labs and via
credit cards ?

I don't have a credit card... many people in the Netherlands probably don't
have a credit card.

This means I am not stuck with the following:

1. I cannot connect all of the 7.1 amplifiers and 7.1 receivers in the world
to this device because of incompatible connections.
(The only possibility is non-analog connections but this would be
unstatisfactory because this would disable 7.1 support and other features).

2. I can only presumable connect Creative Labs speaker sets... <- vendor
lock in.

This is starting to piss me off.

Therefore I ask a question to all folks in the Netherlands and/or in the
rest of Europe:

1. Did you purchase a Creative Labs Home Theater Cable ?

2. If so where did you purchase it ?

3. Do you have a link to a website where I could purchase it without credit
cards ?

4. Failing that do you know a shop in the Netherlands where I might be able
to purchase it ?

I definetly do not want to purchase any Creative Labs speaker set because of
bad quality experiences.

Also most if not all of the speaker sets that Creative Labs sells are not
7.1... the best one is 5.1.

(Apperently there only 7.1 speaker set got discontinued because of
pressumbly bad quality).

"Vendor lock-in" could be a nice extra compliant in a possible law suit
against Creative Labs... added to "poor quality" complaint.

Also why did they not supply this home theater cable when I bought the
creative x-fi elite pro soundblaster ?

Seems like a pretty important cable !

Non of the dutch webstores seem to have it ?!

All in all very suspicious ! ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.
All the Dutch I know have credit cards, passports, and cell phones. I
think you should use twinax cabling to preserve the hi fi quality of
your digital cables. Some people remark that their home made
interconnects made with RF cabling sounds amazing, much better than
commercially made.
 
S

Skybuck Flying

Hmmm,

I have made a startling discovery.

The local BCC store cannot be reached by telephone.

Instead I got the main BCC headquators on the phone.

This is odd.

If I ever have a problem I would have to go to the store to talk with those
guys...

They probably don't have e-mail too... which is also odd.

This could be a bad sign in case problems happen...

But for now I give them the benefit of the doubt ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
R

Rob

They probably don't have e-mail too... which is also odd.
Actually, they almost surely do have e-mail and a local phone number, they're
just not telling you what they are.

Very clever! They don't want him on the phone calling, or sending e-mail
to them. They probably don't even want him in the shop.

Just like we don't want him on the long list of groups that he is posting
his crap on.

Now let's just stop answering any of his posts when it is sent to more
than two newsgroups. That should be a good start.
 
S

Skybuck Flying

Rob said:
Very clever! They don't want him on the phone calling, or sending e-mail
to them. They probably don't even want him in the shop.

Just like we don't want him on the long list of groups that he is posting
his crap on.

Now let's just stop answering any of his posts when it is sent to more
than two newsgroups. That should be a good start.

No it's nothing personal.

The headquators said their shops are not reachable by telephone !

I think they don't want their sales persons to be disturbed by phones or
so... which again I think is kinda odd...

They claim to have high service, low price...

How is not having a telephone being high service ? ;)

Get my point ! :)

Salesman would call today but didn't... maybe he forgot.. it's ok... maybe
tomorrow I go there to figure out if they have the 1609 which apperently
most dutch people have never heard about simply because the distributor
doesn't seem to have it... so that's probably a no-no...

I wouldn't be too surprised if they can't get the cable... Hmm ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
S

Skybuck Flying

There were some menu options on the phone and could order via phone as
well...

So maybe "support" is handled via the headquartors... which again would be
odd...

So again I am giving them the benefit of the doubt...

I didn't let the woman on the phone finish because I was expecting a phone
call and thus hang up quickly ;)

She found it kinda funny, that in itself could also be a bad sign but again
I give them benefit of the doubt ;) :)

I could call back just to see what's it about but it costs 10 euro cent per
minute.

So for now maybe not.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
S

Skybuck Flying

Joel Koltner said:
If you ever have a problem you'll have a much better chance of getting it
resolved properly if you go in person anyway.

You'd think ? Hmm I have my doubts about that... at least behind a phone you
can sit down calmly and talk about it ;)
Actually, they almost surely do have e-mail and a local phone number,
they're just not telling you what they are.

I hope you mean the data/information...

I hope you don't mean that their a bunch of thieves/scammers ;) :)

Bye,
Skybuck =D
 
S

Skybuck Flying

I am starting to doubt I am ever gonna get these creative labs cables... so
maybe it's possible to replace them with other cables.

I posted this question in a new thread called:

"Replacement cables for Creative Labs Home Theater/Cinema Cable ? (4 and 3
channel cables(?))"

Check it out if anybody needs these ^ cables too and can't get them ;) :)

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
E

Eeyore

qrk said:
All the Dutch I know have credit cards, passports, and cell phones. I
think you should use twinax cabling to preserve the hi fi quality of
your digital cables. Some people remark that their home made
interconnects made with RF cabling sounds amazing, much better than
commercially made.

I hate to think how unless living next to an RF transmitter.

Graham
 
J

James T. Kirk©

Bart! schreef:
GO AWAY, you fucking retard! Leave sci.electronics.design OUT of your
retarded cross posted horseshit!

You fucking total retard!

Hello friendly man, why do YOU crosspost in our dutch languaged group, hey?
 
J

James T. Kirk©

Michael A. Terrell schreef:
Because he's one of your trolls who likes to pollute
Yes, I understand, but YOU could be clever and leave OUR group out,
thank you! He will read in YOUR group anyway.
 
J

James T. Kirk©

Michael A. Terrell schreef:
He's your troll. Deal with it. I kill filed the imbecile long ago.
Me too, so why bother? If anyone else is clever, they stop answering
this pinhead too.
 
B

Bob Larter

Joel said:
If you ever have a problem you'll have a much better chance of getting it
resolved properly if you go in person anyway.


Actually, they almost surely do have e-mail and a local phone number, they're
just not telling you what they are.

Who can blame them?
 
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