Bogus Newspaper Career Ads for Electronics Designers

[D from BC]

I remember a couple of years ago seeing a Raytheon career ad in the
Vancouver Sun (British Columbia, Canada)
The qualifications were complete techno gibberish..like science
fiction.
I guessed their main researcher died (or deported to russia) and the
job ad was based on finishing cutting edge patent pending research
that nobody knew anything about..

We have 2 major beautifully located universities. One with a nude
beach by the way...anyways .
My point: There's no local university or tech school that could
prepare anyone to qualify for this Raytheon job..

I think Raytheon looks dum for posting a newspaper ad for an obvious
internal position..

Why would Raytheon put a career ad in a local paper where probably
nobody can qualify?
I don't even think Raytheon has local competition.

For fun...I went on the Ratheon.ca site..
There's no Vancouver location anymore!
D from BC

 

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I remember a couple of years ago seeing a Raytheon career ad in the
Vancouver Sun (British Columbia, Canada)
The qualifications were complete techno gibberish..like science
fiction.
I guessed their main researcher died (or deported to russia) and the
job ad was based on finishing cutting edge patent pending research
that nobody knew anything about..

Most personnel departments insist that they place job ads, and know
too little about the jobs to get the techno gibberish right - even
when engineering writes the ad, they will still insist on editing it
"to make the message clearer". Pretty much all the personnel people
I've dealt with haven't known enough to realise how totally clueless
they were, and I've never found any way of educating them even up to
that low level.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

I remember a couple of years ago seeing a Raytheon career ad in the
Vancouver Sun (British Columbia, Canada)
The qualifications were complete techno gibberish..like science
fiction.
I guessed their main researcher died (or deported to russia) and the
job ad was based on finishing cutting edge patent pending research
that nobody knew anything about..

We have 2 major beautifully located universities. One with a nude
beach by the way...anyways .
My point: There's no local university or tech school that could
prepare anyone to qualify for this Raytheon job..

I think Raytheon looks dum for posting a newspaper ad for an obvious
internal position..

Why would Raytheon put a career ad in a local paper where probably
nobody can qualify?
I don't even think Raytheon has local competition.

That is like a company advertising for someone with 25 years
experience running a machine designed three year earlier. They seem to
think the guy they are replacing did the exact same job, from the day he
was hired.

A two way radio shop wanted someone with 10 years experience on a
particular radio line that had started shipping six years earlier.
What idiots. HR should go back to being the Personnel department, and
not hide in their office all day long. they need to spend at least a
day a week on the production floor, so they know exactly how things
work.




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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[D from BC]

Most personnel departments insist that they place job ads, and know
too little about the jobs to get the techno gibberish right - even
when engineering writes the ad, they will still insist on editing it
"to make the message clearer". Pretty much all the personnel people
I've dealt with haven't known enough to realise how totally clueless
they were, and I've never found any way of educating them even up to
that low level.

I mean the ad was really off beat..
Something like...
"
Raytheon requires an engineer experienced with the GHYU898 tri phase
units and ZVBXX channel systems.
Experience in YX98 models and YX99 multi core digital electron
focusing processors a must.
"
+ 15 more lines of "in house" gobble d gook....

WTF! Only the guy that designed this stuff knows this sh!t..
I was looking for work at the time and the ad was just a slap in the
face..
D from BC

 

[Robert Baer]

I remember a couple of years ago seeing a Raytheon career ad in the
Vancouver Sun (British Columbia, Canada)
The qualifications were complete techno gibberish..like science
fiction.
I guessed their main researcher died (or deported to russia) and the
job ad was based on finishing cutting edge patent pending research
that nobody knew anything about..

We have 2 major beautifully located universities. One with a nude
beach by the way...anyways .
My point: There's no local university or tech school that could
prepare anyone to qualify for this Raytheon job..

I think Raytheon looks dum for posting a newspaper ad for an obvious
internal position..

Why would Raytheon put a career ad in a local paper where probably
nobody can qualify?
I don't even think Raytheon has local competition.

For fun...I went on the Ratheon.ca site..
There's no Vancouver location anymore!
D from BC

When a greedy manager wants to "replace" some mid to high paying slot
(engineer,IT, etc), they manufacture qualifications and place an ad to
prove that no local talent is available - thus they can do an H1-B or
something like that.
This shit has been happening for over 30 years.

 

[Robert Baer]

Most personnel departments insist that they place job ads, and know
too little about the jobs to get the techno gibberish right - even
when engineering writes the ad, they will still insist on editing it
"to make the message clearer". Pretty much all the personnel people
I've dealt with haven't known enough to realise how totally clueless
they were, and I've never found any way of educating them even up to
that low level.

The best method of education is the showing of the egress to them.

 

[Robert Baer]

I mean the ad was really off beat..
Something like...
"
Raytheon requires an engineer experienced with the GHYU898 tri phase
units and ZVBXX channel systems.
Experience in YX98 models and YX99 multi core digital electron
focusing processors a must.
"
+ 15 more lines of "in house" gobble d gook....

WTF! Only the guy that designed this stuff knows this sh!t..
I was looking for work at the time and the ad was just a slap in the
face..
D from BC

....so apply for that *specific* job and if any awkward questions pop up,
just cite that for security reasons you cannot answer.

 

[D from BC]

When a greedy manager wants to "replace" some mid to high paying slot
(engineer,IT, etc), they manufacture qualifications and place an ad to
prove that no local talent is available - thus they can do an H1-B or
something like that.
This shit has been happening for over 30 years.

H1-B?
I don't know what that is but I think I can guess..
Is that a form that allows the hiring of someone who is not a resident
or citizen..
It has to be proven that only a foreign person qualifies for the
position.
Therefore the bogus career ad.
100's of locals can apply.
HR just reads resumes for nothing because no one qualifies.
Who gets the job...it's low salary Boris from Russia!!

Or..is it some sort of tax break..?
D from BC

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I mean the ad was really off beat..
Something like...
"
Raytheon requires an engineer experienced with the GHYU898 tri phase
units and ZVBXX channel systems.
Experience in YX98 models and YX99 multi core digital electron
focusing processors a must.
"
+ 15 more lines of "in house" gobble d gook....

WTF! Only the guy that designed this stuff knows this sh!t..
I was looking for work at the time and the ad was just a slap in the
face..
D from BC

Most likely they already had someone they wanted for the job and were just
going through the motions. Perhaps he was from overseas and they had to
pretend to search in Canada just to get a residence permit for him.

BTW, I still see ads in Vancouver looking for programmers who know all
technologies and offering $10 / hr. Yeah, right.


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[Homer J Simpson]

H1-B?
I don't know what that is but I think I can guess..
Is that a form that allows the hiring of someone who is not a resident
or citizen..

Yes, in the USA.


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[D from BC]

Most likely they already had someone they wanted for the job and were just
going through the motions. Perhaps he was from overseas and they had to
pretend to search in Canada just to get a residence permit for him.

BTW, I still see ads in Vancouver looking for programmers who know all
technologies and offering $10 / hr. Yeah, right.


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Ahhh...I knew something fishy was going on..

About those programmers..
It might be that there's too many starving programmers driving the
salaries down..
The only 2 professions that make the most money in Vancouver I think
are surgeons (guessing $150000/year)
and prostitutes (guessing $180000/year cash! so add 35%)

It may not be cool but when I get a call for an interview ..my first
question is "What is the max salary offered?."
D from BC

 

[Richard Henry]

I mean the ad was really off beat..
Something like...
"
Raytheon requires an engineer experienced with the GHYU898 tri phase
units and ZVBXX channel systems.
Experience in YX98 models and YX99 multi core digital electron
focusing processors a must.
"
+ 15 more lines of "in house" gobble d gook....

WTF! Only the guy that designed this stuff knows this sh!t..
I was looking for work at the time and the ad was just a slap in the
face..
D from BC-

A place where I worked once advertised for a programmer skilled in Z80
ASM, PL-Z, Fortran, Cobol, and APL.

After the ad came out, we realized that the only people on Earth who
had skills of that mix probably already worked at our place.

 

[The Real Andy]

Most personnel departments insist that they place job ads, and know
too little about the jobs to get the techno gibberish right - even
when engineering writes the ad, they will still insist on editing it
"to make the message clearer". Pretty much all the personnel people
I've dealt with haven't known enough to realise how totally clueless
they were, and I've never found any way of educating them even up to
that low level.

If anyone applies for a job that has ieee anywhere on their cv then
their cv get shit tinned by default.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

I remember a couple of years ago seeing a Raytheon career ad in the
Vancouver Sun (British Columbia, Canada)
The qualifications were complete techno gibberish..like science
fiction.
I guessed their main researcher died (or deported to russia) and the
job ad was based on finishing cutting edge patent pending research
that nobody knew anything about..

We have 2 major beautifully located universities. One with a nude
beach by the way...anyways .
My point: There's no local university or tech school that could
prepare anyone to qualify for this Raytheon job..

I think Raytheon looks dum for posting a newspaper ad for an obvious
internal position..

Why would Raytheon put a career ad in a local paper where probably
nobody can qualify?
I don't even think Raytheon has local competition.

For fun...I went on the Ratheon.ca site..
There's no Vancouver location anymore!
D from BC

Close. Governments have labour regulations that require equal treatment
of qualified applicants, or preference for residents vs foreigners, etc.
The loophole is "qualified applicants". So when you find the person
you want to hire, you advertise that person's exact qualifications as
the non-negotiable minimum requirement, and you get to hire whom you like.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

 

[D from BC]

Close. Governments have labour regulations that require equal treatment
of qualified applicants, or preference for residents vs foreigners, etc.
The loophole is "qualified applicants". So when you find the person
you want to hire, you advertise that person's exact qualifications as
the non-negotiable minimum requirement, and you get to hire whom you like.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

Fk..nobody told me sh!t like that happens when I went to BCIT.

I'm going to quote this part for fun:
"So when you find the person you want to hire, you advertise that
person's exact qualifications as
the non-negotiable minimum requirement"

Hee hee

Ok...Here's my new VANCOUVER posted Raytheon career ad for Boris in
Russia.. (Raytheon justs wants Boris...but has to locally advertise.)

Raytheon has an exciting career opportunity for a electronics design
technologist with the following qualifications:
Experience in
Valdinov Parallel Processing Algorithms
Familiar with Soviet multilayer component assembly practice
Viktor center X9 level military electronics training
Graduate of MIT...(Moscow Institute of Technology )
Please send resumes to [email protected]

....
D from BC

 

[Robert Baer]

H1-B?
I don't know what that is but I think I can guess..
Is that a form that allows the hiring of someone who is not a resident
or citizen..
It has to be proven that only a foreign person qualifies for the
position.
Therefore the bogus career ad.
100's of locals can apply.
HR just reads resumes for nothing because no one qualifies.
Who gets the job...it's low salary Boris from Russia!!

Or..is it some sort of tax break..?
D from BC

The only tax break is (eventually) the corporations will get them and
the peons get to make up the difference (and then some).

 

[Robert Adsett]

H1-B?
I don't know what that is but I think I can guess..
Is that a form that allows the hiring of someone who is not a resident
or citizen..

It's a particular form of American foriegn worker imigration. There is
no direct Canadian equivalent AFAIK.

Robert

 

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Fk..nobody told me sh!t like that happens when I went to BCIT.

I'm going to quote this part for fun:
"So when you find the person you want to hire, you advertise that
person's exact qualifications as
the non-negotiable minimum requirement"

Hee hee

Ok...Here's my new VANCOUVER posted Raytheon career ad for Boris in
Russia.. (Raytheon justs wants Boris...but has to locally advertise.)

Raytheon has an exciting career opportunity for a electronics design
technologist with the following qualifications:
Experience in
Valdinov Parallel Processing Algorithms
Familiar with Soviet multilayer component assembly practice
Viktor center X9 level military electronics training
Graduate of MIT...(Moscow Institute of Technology )
Please send resumes to [email protected]

Sounds like Raytheon Canada won the contract for the Pentagon's latest
high weapons system.