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Hi,
I am debating beetween getting a GE Simon 3 system or an ADT Safewatch 3000
pro RF. I tried to weight the pro and cons of each system (see below) and it
looks like the Simon 3 is a winner.
Am I right?
Thanks in advance for any advice/comment you could give me regarding that
matter.
FG
ANALYSIS of the sistuation:
While they send me in Asia for 12 months, my company is going to pay for the
installation of an alarm and the monitoring of my condo .When I come back, I
do not plan to keep the proffessionnal monitoring. So I am looking to have
them install a system that will allow me to monitor by myself my condo (it's
1300 sq ft condo, max distance between sensor and alarm panel = 25ft). Once
it has been installed, I want to easily be able to :
- maintain it,
- program it to call me in case of an intrusion and be able able to reset it
with a touch phone,
- schedule X10 events (switching on lights...) .
So far, we are considering 2 possibilities for our basic setup (wireless
system, 1 keypad, 2motions, 2 remote, 1 smoke, 2 door contacts):
- Go with an independent installer who will install a Simon 3 system
for around $1200 and we will then subscribe to a monitoring company like
nextalarm.com
OR
- go with an ADT dealer and a Safewatch pro 3000 RF system $759
($499 for the basic system + $95 for the extra keychain + $165 for the
extra motion sensor). The girl from ADT was OK to offer a one year contract
with ownership of the sytem instead of the usual 3 year
From my "limited" point of view, it seems that the Simon 3 panel fits my
picture better since. It looks like it will be easier for me to :
- maintain the system
- control it over the phone and program it to call me in case of an
intrusion without the need of a monitoring service,
- subscribe to a different monitoring company (not necessary ADT)
The ADT safe watch system (ADT customized vista 20P??) seems more
professional and offer hardwired sensors but it also looks like :
- it will be a pain for me to mainatin or add new components (X10
switches) or choose to subscribe to another monitoring company because ADT
has kind of "locked the system"
- less user friendly and more expensive to control it over the phone
(I believe you also have to pay ADT an extra $180 to get the remote phone
control) and configure it to call you in case of an intrusion
So, it seems to me that getting the Safewatch system would be overkill and
that the Simon 3 would be a better solution, especially if I want ot have
the possibility to NOT need to use a professional monitoring service but
just want the system to call me or other numbers in case of an intrusion.
Am I right to choose the Simon 3 or am I missing something? : )
Thanks in advance for any piece of advice you may give me,
Best Regards,,
FG
Bonus questions : ; )
Q2: Can the ADT dealer actually offer a 12 month monitoring service and
guarantee that we will own the system after those 12 months?? I thought ADT
dealer were only allowed to offer 3 year contracts.
Q3: The dealer/installer told us that they could not install any new wiring
because the place we own is a condo and therefore they can only offer
wireless systems. Is this correct??
Q4:The independent installer told us that they are not allowed (in
Clearwater Florida) to install smoke detector in condo (but they can in town
homes). The ADT dealer didn't mention any restriction regarding the
installation of a smoke detector. Who is right??
Q5: The installer told me that wireless recessed door sensors are no working
well with the Simon 3 system and that I should go with the regular wireless
door sensor. Is this correct?
Is there also a big difference in quality between the various sensors? Any
brand/model, you would recommend for motion detector or door sensors?
Q6:Any opinion about www.nextalarm.com
I am debating beetween getting a GE Simon 3 system or an ADT Safewatch 3000
pro RF. I tried to weight the pro and cons of each system (see below) and it
looks like the Simon 3 is a winner.
Am I right?
Thanks in advance for any advice/comment you could give me regarding that
matter.
FG
ANALYSIS of the sistuation:
While they send me in Asia for 12 months, my company is going to pay for the
installation of an alarm and the monitoring of my condo .When I come back, I
do not plan to keep the proffessionnal monitoring. So I am looking to have
them install a system that will allow me to monitor by myself my condo (it's
1300 sq ft condo, max distance between sensor and alarm panel = 25ft). Once
it has been installed, I want to easily be able to :
- maintain it,
- program it to call me in case of an intrusion and be able able to reset it
with a touch phone,
- schedule X10 events (switching on lights...) .
So far, we are considering 2 possibilities for our basic setup (wireless
system, 1 keypad, 2motions, 2 remote, 1 smoke, 2 door contacts):
- Go with an independent installer who will install a Simon 3 system
for around $1200 and we will then subscribe to a monitoring company like
nextalarm.com
OR
- go with an ADT dealer and a Safewatch pro 3000 RF system $759
($499 for the basic system + $95 for the extra keychain + $165 for the
extra motion sensor). The girl from ADT was OK to offer a one year contract
with ownership of the sytem instead of the usual 3 year
From my "limited" point of view, it seems that the Simon 3 panel fits my
picture better since. It looks like it will be easier for me to :
- maintain the system
- control it over the phone and program it to call me in case of an
intrusion without the need of a monitoring service,
- subscribe to a different monitoring company (not necessary ADT)
The ADT safe watch system (ADT customized vista 20P??) seems more
professional and offer hardwired sensors but it also looks like :
- it will be a pain for me to mainatin or add new components (X10
switches) or choose to subscribe to another monitoring company because ADT
has kind of "locked the system"
- less user friendly and more expensive to control it over the phone
(I believe you also have to pay ADT an extra $180 to get the remote phone
control) and configure it to call you in case of an intrusion
So, it seems to me that getting the Safewatch system would be overkill and
that the Simon 3 would be a better solution, especially if I want ot have
the possibility to NOT need to use a professional monitoring service but
just want the system to call me or other numbers in case of an intrusion.
Am I right to choose the Simon 3 or am I missing something? : )
Thanks in advance for any piece of advice you may give me,
Best Regards,,
FG
Bonus questions : ; )
Q2: Can the ADT dealer actually offer a 12 month monitoring service and
guarantee that we will own the system after those 12 months?? I thought ADT
dealer were only allowed to offer 3 year contracts.
Q3: The dealer/installer told us that they could not install any new wiring
because the place we own is a condo and therefore they can only offer
wireless systems. Is this correct??
Q4:The independent installer told us that they are not allowed (in
Clearwater Florida) to install smoke detector in condo (but they can in town
homes). The ADT dealer didn't mention any restriction regarding the
installation of a smoke detector. Who is right??
Q5: The installer told me that wireless recessed door sensors are no working
well with the Simon 3 system and that I should go with the regular wireless
door sensor. Is this correct?
Is there also a big difference in quality between the various sensors? Any
brand/model, you would recommend for motion detector or door sensors?
Q6:Any opinion about www.nextalarm.com