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solar , powered heat pump for both cooling and heating.

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Drew Cutter

Need a list of US mfg. of solar heat pumps that be used for cooling and
heating. Do solar heat pumps heat and cool really work ?
 
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Steve Spence

Technically, but probably not both at the same time. What I mean
is that heat pumps in general tend to do one or the other quite
well, but not both. The problem is generally you are either
trying to heat up quite a large differential (because it's really
cold outside) or you are trying to cool down (when it's really
hot out). Heat pumps don't handle large differences well,
which is why folks who use them in hot regions tend to still
have their homes a tad on the warm side, or pay out the
wazoo for the energy. During cold spells, of which there
tend to be few, they allow the house to run a bit cold.
Heat pumps tend to have "emergency" heater strips (electric)
which kick in when the temp difference gets too big and
those burn ALOT of power.

I've found them in use far less in the north where it
gets cold because folks can easily be having to warm a
house up better than 40 or 50 F where as on the hottest
days in the south folks will tend to only try to
cool it 20+ F.

As for solar, my primary observation would be that
where ever I've lived, when it's cold, the sun usually isn't
out all that long and it's coldest when there is absolutely
no sun.

All of this of course depends upon your local conditions.
One big help is if you have some body of water you can
use as a sink which neither gets very cold, nor ever gets
very hot. A large stream or lake comes to mind. Water
never gets much below 40 nor above 90. Alternately if you
live in some extremely mild climate where the max variation
is similar, and the sun shines regularly, you could probably
do quite well.
you are referring to air source heat pumps, not ground source. GSHP is
an excellent option for colder climates, and many make hot water all
year round with a de-superheater. Heater strips?

8' deep horizontal slinky coils do not require boreholes or ponds.
 
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Steve Spence

John said:
So what's a de-superheater ?


Cheers, J/.

A hot water desuperheater is a heat exchanger built into the heat pump
and is designed to remove high temperature heat from the refrigerant
gases. A typical hot water desuperheater will generally provide 120° F
water and can supply most of the domestic water needs depending on the
amount of consumption.
 
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Steve Spence

Yeah, I forgot about ground based. It's a local mental block
because
if you go 8 feet deep around here you'll hit ground water. Which
actually wouldn't be particularly bad per se but the county might
complain. And considering it won't exactly be flowing, I don't
know how well it would work.

it doesn't matter to a closed loop system.
 
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John Beardmore

Steve Spence said:
John Beardmore wrote:
A hot water desuperheater is a heat exchanger built into the heat pump
and is designed to remove high temperature heat from the refrigerant
gases. A typical hot water desuperheater will generally provide 120° F
water and can supply most of the domestic water needs depending on the
amount of consumption.

Anybody know of a machine that offers this on sale in Europe or the UK ?

Most HPs that do DHW heating I've seen seem to do resistive heating.


Cheers, J/.
 
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Steve Spence

John said:
Anybody know of a machine that offers this on sale in Europe or the UK ?

Most HPs that do DHW heating I've seen seem to do resistive heating.


Cheers, J/.

Sorry, I'm not familiar with GSHP marketing in the UK. Just the US.
This feature is common over here.
 
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